Honest Advice needed.

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  1. I am considering joining the Army, it is something I have always wanted to do. I am torn at the moment because I am currently a serving Police Officer and am frustrated with my job due to paperwork and political correctness gone wild. I am fully aware that that me joining the army would mean a drop in pay however on the other hand I am thinking, If i never join the army and go through life regretting the fact that I never joined it will always be playing on my mind.
    I would appreciate any advice you could give me. Do you think it is worth leaving the Police force to join the Army?
     
  2. Get down to the careers office if you want it that bad...Join the RMP maybe?
     
  3. Honestly? Honestly, this is the wrong place to ask for advice!
     
  4. Have you sat down and worked out the pros and cons?? That'd be a good place to start.
     
  5. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    An almost impossible question to answer with so many variables on both sides. Might be easier if you narrow it down to your interests in the Army as well as your personal circumstances if you want a reasonable response.
     
  6. well, my particular interest in the army is the Kings troop. I have always enjoyed watching the gun salutes and had an interest in artillery. I am single and don't have any ties to stop me joining the army.
    One thing attracts me to the army is the friends you will make and the camaraderie. This has all but gone out of the Police force due to the fact that they stopped residential basic training.
    The main frustration for me is the paper work every time you arrest someone, there is paper work to be done. Also if you don't have the right piece of paper then everything grinds to a halt. Hopefully this is not the same in the army?
     

  7. Do you think we could do a job swap............
     
  8. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    Officer or soldier?
     
  9. Kings Troop is a tricky one. Yes they are soldiers, but 95% of their tasks revolve around ceremonial duties/display work. Don't forget the mucking out of the horses from a-hole o'clock, followed by the stables work throughout the day etc.

    If that still excites you (and why not - they look smart and have a different job to most), then go for it, but if it is soldiering as a whole that is interesting you, the option to do Op tours, exercises, make things go bang etc may not present themselves as often in Kings Troop.

    As for whether or not to change from Police to Army - one person has asked the question - do you intend to join as an Officer or Soldier - as an Officer there is a huge mount of admin to be done that you just can't escape these days (I know, Officers and admin..). Mostly gone are the days of handing your idea to a SNCO and it magically happens for you to take the credit. Political correctness and health and safety still affect us in green. If however you intend to be a soldier, then responsibility builds up and what is expected of you accordingly.

    I would say go for it if you want to - if you are unhappy in your Police job and have an interest in another (in this instance Army) then give it a shot - just remember that you can't "give it a crack for a couple of weeks, then bin it when I feel like it" - 4 year commitment after your DAOR window closes.
     
  10. How long have you been in the job, and how old are you mate?

    It's a difficult one to decide on. On one hand the "job" isn't a bad one but I share a lot of your dissolusionment with it (to the point I'm currently going through the process of transfering to Calgary) in it's current form.

    The paperwork and lack of discretion is a major bone of contention with a lot of OB who didn't join to be some form of stat collector/social worker/Jeremt Kyle/ arrse coverer. I include myself in that pile. It certainly isn't the job I joined to do.

    If you're out of your probation have you considerd uniformed spacialisation such as Firearms/Support Group/Dogs etc? They're still frontline posts but generally carry less paperwork burdens, they also have a reputation for cameraderie and a strong teamwork ethic, but the powers that be would call it "Van Culture" or "elitism"..

    If you're still quite young (being in my almost mid thirties i consider myself a bit older now) you could always rejoin after you've served in the army.
     
  11. I am 22 now, I have been in for a year and a half, I have got about 6 months till my probation ends. I can then specialize if there is an opportunity for me to do so. If I left I don't think I would apply again to the Police as they make you write them crap essays on the community and how to wipe peoples arse's.
    Also like you said there is a massive lack of discretion in the Police Force and National Crime recording standards are a joke. The wearing of stupid yellow jackets in broard daylight, arresting the same piss takers over and over and not being able to give them a good kicking because of human rights legislation, the list of shite is endless ahhh! it just winds me up
     
  12. Good man Simon J, your lack of dignity at work is exactly the skill sets you need as a soldier. We are very professional and all strive to be the best person that we can be, coupled with a focus on winning & not contemplating failure. I know as a peeler life can be hard, but it will be an awful lot harder on active service overseas. However with a sense of humour and surrounded by mates who trust with each others lifes, move over to the Military. We have a wicked sense of humour and take no prisoners. I have a few mates who left the Military & moved into the Police and did not feel as happy or trustworthy of their new colleagues. The difference between the Police & the Military is that your current customers are JD Wetherspoons end users & the guys and girls are dealing with Terry Taliban & Al Qaeda. Your Police basic training & youth will be great at you standing ahead of your peers either at Sandhurst or on basic training at a Depot as a recruit. Good luck !
     
  13. A year and a half? it took me 3 years before I had a titfull!

    Thought of emograting? Western Australia Police have 500 posts to fill next year.
     
  14. I have thought about emigrating but then again my wanting to emigrate comes from the fact that this country is flooded with immigrants. I don't want to leave this country to be a foreigner in another. I like this country its just all the tossers we've got running it.
    Yep it has taken me a year and a half to realize that the Police force is modeled on Disney land! Also I find that in the Police the people who are working their way up the rank ladder will shit on you to get up there and then you are expected to respect them. Really makes for good team work!
     
  15. Well you can't bayonet babies in the police.........................or can you?

    Seriously do you have dependents? Because if you have to take a drop in pay then despite what is said now the picture may well change when reality sets in.
    If not then join the Army now, because otherwise you will regret not having given it a shot for the rest of your life. You can always come back to the plods afterwards if you still want to.
    Otherwise the TA may be an option, with the commensurate INCREASE in pay.

    Kings Troop looks good, but as said is a lot of routine, and it sounds like you want a break. So either do RMP where you can use your present skills or make a complete break and choose another option that will give you another view of things.

    Good luck whatever.