Holding the Police to Account

Why aren’t SCs paid? Seems ridiculous that they are asked to do what PCs are without pay.

AR/RNR/RMR/R Aux AF carry out their civic duty too, but are financially rewarded. Still, I don’t think many do it for the money. I certainly didn’t, it was just beer money.
I volunteer as an ambulance service first responder for no pay, on call, I can administer oxygen, use defibrillator and take a full range of observations, pulse, blood pressure, blood oxygen sats and temperature, trained to recognise a number of medical conditions including sepsis. Just doing my civic duty as I live in a rural area. ;)
 
I volunteer as an ambulance service first responder for no pay, on call, I can administer oxygen, use defibrillator and take a full range of observations, pulse, blood pressure, blood oxygen sats and temperature, trained to recognise a number of medical conditions including sepsis. Just doing my civic duty as I live in a rural area. ;)
Seems to me like you should be paid then. Say a small retainer when on call and £X per call out. Like retained firefighters. Seems like you’re a retained ambulance bloke.
 
My mate loved being a special, but after four years of being run ragged and holding down a day job he was totally burnt out. My image of them outside the footy ground on a Saturday was also out of date. Short of armed response and CID, he experienced pretty much the full range of policing. It didn't do much for his marriage. It's a bit of a 'cheers easy' job really. Even if they drew pay it'd still be cost effective. Buggered if I'd do it for free.

The whole bloody thing needs restructuring.
 

Dredd

LE
Seems to me like you should be paid then. Say a small retainer when on call and £X per call out. Like retained firefighters. Seems like you’re a retained ambulance bloke.
You obviously missed the "employee" bit in an earlier response to your question.
 

QRK2

LE
Why aren’t SCs paid? Seems ridiculous that they are asked to do what PCs are without pay.

AR/RNR/RMR/R Aux AF carry out their civic duty too, but are financially rewarded. Still, I don’t think many do it for the money. I certainly didn’t, it was just beer money.
I found it a bit odd as well. The HAC has two active units, the AR Regiment and quite a large detachment of Special Constabulary they have been quite heavily involved in public order but also provide a lot of specialists in financial crime (cross over from their day jobs) some of whom are the acknowledged police national experts in their fields.
 
I’d have thought all of those issues you mention would in fact be desirable. Are SCs not subject to discipline and excluded from the Police Federation?
It's twenty years since my mate was a SC, he certainly wasn't in the Federation and I'm pretty sure that it wasn't even an option for Specials. Might be different now, I don't know.
 

Green_Homer

War Hero
Its 12% for police staff at current.
Being pedantic but police staff means non warranted personnel rather than warranted constables. They have their own separate pension which the average member pays about 6% on the current scheme, although it's linked to the national pension age rather than a fixed length of service.

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I wonder what aslef would say if I offered to drive a train on my days off for nothing ,or any other trade union .
I found it a bit odd as well. The HAC has two active units, the AR Regiment and quite a large detachment of Special Constabulary they have been quite heavily involved in public order but also provide a lot of specialists in financial crime (cross over from their day jobs) some of whom are the acknowledged police national experts in their fields.
The HAC specials are legends, worked with them when I was on G dist. Top blokes to a man
 

old_fat_and_hairy

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Daughter of one of 0A's acquaintances:
22 years old
5ft 1''
8.5 stone wringing wet
Went to Uni, scraped a degree in Criminology
Alienated all those she shared a house with, repeatedly being told to leave accommodation due to behaviour
The only person I know who left Uni with no friends
Has no friends at all
Lost her virginity to the pizza delivery boy (shagged him, chucked him out, microwaved the pizza)
Has never had a steady boyfriend
Uses Tinder to access one night stand sex, doesn't want any commitment

Has no presence or discernible people skills

And where has she found her berth in life?

Yup, the Met.

A photo arrived recently on 0A's FB feed of her in the full kit. She looked utterly ridiculous, the belt kit looked like it was made for someone twice her size plus her penchant for trowelling on the slap makes her look like a five dollar hooker in a Baghdad brothel.

As far as she's concerned, the quicker she's Taser trained the better as she then won't have to actually deal with a situation, she'll simply go straight to Tazer.

And that, my friends, is a fair example of the calibre of the candidates that are being on-boarded to the illustrious Metropolitan Police (insert other forces services). We are truly fcuked...
Ermm, this friend of your your OA, a bit promiscuous and easy, is she? I don't suppose that you have any ...............art photos of her? Or her tel no.? Asking for a friend, like.
 

Bob Upndown

War Hero
Ermm, this friend of your your OA, a bit promiscuous and easy, is she? I don't suppose that you have any ...............art photos of her? Or her tel no.? Asking for a friend, like.
Not that it’ll make any difference, but I should tell you she’s got a boat you’d never tire of slapping, a chest like a five year boy and legs of the kind, the last time I saw the like, were supporting an oil rig. Knock yourself out!! ;)
 
Not that it’ll make any difference, but I should tell you she’s got a boat you’d never tire of slapping, a chest like a five year boy and legs of the kind, the last time I saw the like, were supporting an oil rig. Knock yourself out!! ;)
So, no piccies then?....
 

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer
Amazing how some people get up in the morning and decide that today is the day they are going feck up their life.


Its ok spraying people in the face with your spray IF IT JUSTIFIED, NOT WHEN THE PRISONER IS HANDCUFFED.
Perhaps he missed that on his last officer safety training day.
 
I saw somewhere that the 'far right'* 'protests'** planned for London would be dealt with robustly by the Met. Anyone see a disconnect here compared to last weekend? *Ex-forces mainly but being painted as far right by the right on brigade **Protection of historical landmarks from vandalism and destruction.
Hence the rendition of 'guide me O thou great reedeemer' with the lyrics... "where the Fuu-uuu-kkk were you last week!!"

when the fully Tac'ed plod turned up..
 
Just who is going to hold the police to account? Politicians and Police chiefs are to busy kneeling down, and the judges now seem to be biased on the left wing side.

We can start with sacking Cressida Dick & Bristol Police chief - they have both proven to not be up to the job. Also their pensions should be stripped from them for failing to uphold the law. If it was up to me, I'd jail them as well.
Run as an MP. I'd vote for you mate.
 
They simply cannot ******* help themselves, can they?
 

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