Now y'see I've given this an lot of thought, it used to be my job after a fashion so..... I largely approve of Dave's vision of welfare reform, it appears to be "carrot to work" rather than "stick for wasting" which is the only (financial) method of changing benefit culture. However... He claims he is "a friend of child benefit" and that the savings from the welfare budget will not come from that sector. He also claims that nobody will lose benefit entirely. There's my confusion.... The only sector of the welfare state that I can see being chopped, realistically, is child benefit. Soooo... I'm forced into drawing the conclusion that he's not actually going to cut anything... If anything he's going to increase the welfare budget with the promise of being able to significantly reduce it in the future once the reforms "bite".