HND or HNC

priesty

Swinger
I've been offered a place on HNC electrical and electronic engineering course. I actually applied for the HND variant but was told it wouldn't be possible to complete the 16 modules in 5 years. Has anyone out there got experience of this course? And do you think it would be possible to complete the HND in the time frame?


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The HND is a full-time course delivered over two years. I've done the same course. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to complete it within that time frame so I would question the college as to why that are not able to deliver it in that time.
 

priesty

Swinger
It's an distance learning course


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Issi

War Hero
In my experience, it's exactly the same course, but the HND is full time and the HNC is day release. I believe that the end qualification is the same.
 

anglo

LE
In my experience, it's exactly the same course, but the HND is full time and the HNC is day release. I believe that the end qualification is the same.
A full-time Higher National Certificate (HNC) takes one year to complete, or two years part-time. Many HNC courses cover the same subjects as an HND, but an HNC is one level below an HND (it's generally equivalent to the first year at university).
 

priesty

Swinger
So has anyone done this course online? And could the HND be completed by distance learning in 5 years?


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In my day (of Latin and slates), an HNC was a day-release or similar course and HND was the full-time equivalent.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
In my experience, it's exactly the same course, but the HND is full time and the HNC is day release. I believe that the end qualification is the same.
It has the same impact at interviews, I wouldn't worry, get stuck in and find a subject you enjoy like PLC or fluid mechanics!

Edited to add that minime has just finished his and not every college can provide the tutor time for the |HND, you can always close the gap and get a top up full time for 1 year after (by full time its closer to a day and a half a week with lots of homework!) according to the little shit!
 

priesty

Swinger
Thanks for the help everyone if anyone has any advice on which modules to do, books etc it would be appreciated


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Issi

War Hero
That's something that your lecturers can help you with.
 
A full-time Higher National Certificate (HNC) takes one year to complete, or two years part-time. Many HNC courses cover the same subjects as an HND, but an HNC is one level below an HND (it's generally equivalent to the first year at university).
Can you still top up and HND to a degree by doing the last two years of a BEng? I remember plenty of blokes with HNDs joining the third year of my course.

Regarding the book list, be careful. A relative has just started college. The books have turned into a rip off since my day. University Physics for 50 quid. They're having a laugh.
 
Can you still top up and HND to a degree by doing the last two years of a BEng? I remember plenty of blokes with HNDs joining the third year of my course.

Regarding the book list, be careful. A relative has just started college. The books have turned into a rip off since my day. University Physics for 50 quid. They're having a laugh.
Portsmouth University do a 2 or 3 year distance learning top-up to BEng, in Electronic Systems Engineering.

BEng (Hons) Electronic Systems Engineering (Top-up) - University of Portsmouth
 

lecky

War Hero
I guess it all depends on what you intend to do with your qualification, once you have it?
IMHO, lately HNC Electrical/Electronics has been devalued by HR types in Industry who understand very little about the course content, but see a higher level as the minimum default requirement for employing Electrical staff, on what turn out to be some quite mundane Electrical processes and functions.
The biggest growth sector for Electrical employment at the moment is Construction. When that dies down there will be a demand for Building Maintenance for which an HNC has an electrical module. There are some challenging level 3 City and Guilds courses which will pretty much guarantee your employment and put you well above national average wages, such as the 2394/5 Inspection, Testing and fault Finding, or the 2396 Design courses in these areas, but you usually have to have completed an NVQ, or ONC, as well as having had some Electrical experience.
Otherwise, I would say HNC if you are just looking to advance your employment prospects?
HND if you are looking for a springboard to convince someone that you are a good bet in accepting you on a course for a quality degree?
HND or HNC....same thing to HR types, who rarely spot the difference, so why bother getting a letter in the title changed? HND is marginally better than an HNC, but not a degree. So HND is neither here, nor there when it comes to employability.
If you decide to go down the HND route, I would then ask what do you intend to do with an Electrical Degree?
Most General Engineering managers tend to have come through the Mechatronics(Plant Engineer), Mechanics route these days, as Electrical degrees get viewed as a bit of a niche specialism. Unless of course the Employer is wedded to the Electrical process in its functions and products.
 

priesty

Swinger
I guess it all depends on what you intend to do with your qualification, once you have it?
IMHO, lately HNC Electrical/Electronics has been devalued by HR types in Industry who understand very little about the course content, but see a higher level as the minimum default requirement for employing Electrical staff, on what turn out to be some quite mundane Electrical processes and functions.
The biggest growth sector for Electrical employment at the moment is Construction. When that dies down there will be a demand for Building Maintenance for which an HNC has an electrical module. There are some challenging level 3 City and Guilds courses which will pretty much guarantee your employment and put you well above national average wages, such as the 2394/5 Inspection, Testing and fault Finding, or the 2396 Design courses in these areas, but you usually have to have completed an NVQ, or ONC, as well as having had some Electrical experience.
Otherwise, I would say HNC if you are just looking to advance your employment prospects?
HND if you are looking for a springboard to convince someone that you are a good bet in accepting you on a course for a quality degree?
HND or HNC....same thing to HR types, who rarely spot the difference, so why bother getting a letter in the title changed? HND is marginally better than an HNC, but not a degree. So HND is neither here, nor there when it comes to employability.
If you decide to go down the HND route, I would then ask what do you intend to do with an Electrical Degree?
Most General Engineering managers tend to have come through the Mechatronics(Plant Engineer), Mechanics route these days, as Electrical degrees get viewed as a bit of a niche specialism. Unless of course the Employer is wedded to the Electrical process in its functions and products.
Thanks for the information I currently work with generators and power distribution. So already have 17th edition and should be completing part p quite soon. But I was looking at ROV work in the future. I was recommended to get an HND.


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