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HMS Daring participates in Independent Deployer Certification (IDCERT) exercise

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[h=1]Pearl Harbor Based Independent Deployers Participate in Training Exercises[/h]By Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Sean Furey
Posted July 16, 2013




Guided-missile destroyer USS Hopper (DDG 70) departs Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam July 15 to participate in an Independent Deployer Certification (IDCERT) exercise. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Tiarra Fulgham)





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- Hawaii-based ships from Commander, Destroyer Squadron 31 (COMDESRON 31), as well as a ship from the British Royal Navy, started a training and certification exercise off the coast of Hawaii July 15.
While underway the guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70), guided-missile destroyers USS Chafee (DDG 90), USS Hopper (DDG 70) and USS O'Kane (DDG 77), along with fleet replenishment oiler USNS Guadalupe (T-AO 200) and the Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer HMS Daring (D 32), are scheduled to conduct intermediate and advanced training across all warfare areas.
This Independent Deployer Certification (IDCERT) exercise was designed to ensure that USS Hopper and USS Lake Erie are certified as independent deployers as tasked by Commander, U.S. Third Fleet.
"I would say this is one of the more exciting underways that we get to do because we get to work with other ships on the waterfront instead of going by ourselves," said Lt. j.g. Michelle Romero, assigned to the Engineering Dept aboard USS O'Kane. "During certifications we are actually going to employ some of our tactical knowledge and we haven't been able to do that since deployment. It's good to get back into the rhythm of working with other ships and we get to partner up with the British ship that is here in Hawaii so they get to participate with us. We get to provide support to the other ships that are certifying and have fun with it."
The exercise allows ships from COMDESRON 31 to meet their Fleet Response Plan (FRP), which ensures the Fleet can consistently sustain a level of at least six surge-capable carrier strike groups, with two additional strike groups able to deploy within approximately 90 days of an emergency order. The presence of the British ship HMS Daring also allows an opportunity for the U.S. and British Royal Navy to conduct joint training.
"Even though we are giving up a weekend to get underway it's nice to get a glimpse of what we will have to do in the future," said Sonar Technician (Surface) 2nd Class Ginger Parr. "It will make things easier for us to see what we will have to do to make it successful."
COMDESRON 31 serves as Immediate Superior in Command (ISIC) for eight ships - the largest DESRON in the United States Pacific Fleet, providing oversight for maintenance, manning and the Unit Level Training cycle. They also plan and conduct at-sea exercises to develop integrated skills for deploying ships.

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OK. For the thicky which is me, why is this called independent deployer and yet there are several ships?
Because a warship on independent deployment is likely to have to fend for itself against potentially hostile ships, submarines and aircraft or, indeed, operate seamlessly with friendly units. To test and certify this capability effectively requires the presence of other units in a controlled environment.
 
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Because a warship on independent deployment is likely to have to fend for itself against potentially hostile ships, submarines and aircraft or, indeed, operate seamlessly with friendly units. To test and certify this capability effectively requires the presence of other units in a controlled environment.
Understood.

But the text talks about them surging as a group...

The exercise allows ships from COMDESRON 31 to meet their Fleet Response Plan (FRP), which ensures the Fleet can consistently sustain a level of at least six surge-capable carrier strike groups, with two additional strike groups able to deploy within approximately 90 days of an emergency order.

Not individually.
 

Guns

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For the USN some ships never leave the side of the carrier so don't need as much planning etc skills. They are, in effect, covered by the carrier. The other ships may have to detach on sole ops so need training and certification in several different areas along with integration in to Task Group ops.
 
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For the USN some ships never leave the side of the carrier so don't need as much planning etc skills. They are, in effect, covered by the carrier. The other ships may have to detach on sole ops so need training and certification in several different areas along with integration in to Task Group ops.
Where as for the Royal Navy it's standard practise to perform solo Ops as there aren't enough ships available to operate as a battle group.


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Guns

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Where as for the Royal Navy it's standard practise to perform solo Ops as there aren't enough ships available to operate as a battle group.


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Nope, we have always insisted that all our escorts can act independently. It's why we have the expertise we do at Senior Rate and Officer level onboard the ships. For example the Destroyer attached as Redcrown to the Carrier and thus never to leave her side will not have the Chief Petty Officers and Warfare Officer trained to plan independent Ops, like say Anti Air Warfare Commander as they would normally have the Squadron staff embarked to do that.

The USN is moving away from this model and are trying to ensure all their deploying major surface combatants can act as singletons and are manned and trained as such.

As to a battle group, I'm sure we do.

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OldSnowy

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Nah, the Yanks are moving en masse back to the Pacific, we'll have to pick up the slack East of Suez.

Back to the 60's and all that.
What he said, with knobs on. The Yanks are going to be net energy exporters, so why should they worry about the Gulf, Straits of Hormuz, etc?

Meanwhile, I do like the USN rank/specs: "Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Sean Furey". I presume that as 2nd Class he's only allowed photos. When he gets to 1st Class he's given a twitter account, and acces to RumRation?
 
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Guns - hoofing photo, but also full of US and French escorts. Its also the only active LPH, LPD and one of two active stores ships there. But apart from that we have a mean looking battle group :)
 
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What he said, with knobs on. The Yanks are going to be net energy exporters, so why should they worry about the Gulf, Straits of Hormuz, etc?

Meanwhile, I do like the USN rank/specs: "Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Sean Furey". I presume that as 2nd Class he's only allowed photos. When he gets to 1st Class he's given a twitter account, and acces to RumRation?
USN has too many ranks for their enlisted sailors. I prefer the RN's structure.
 

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