HMS Coventry in HMS Tamar

#1
Trying to annoy a matelot 'mate' I of mine came across this:
All Of One Company (1980) - YouTube

HMS Coventry underway from Portsmouth to (British) HK.

25:35 onwards is very instructive.
 
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#3
Proper Navy, no sign of todays floating pc youth club with its chubby lads and dykey bints moaning about they're rights and entitlements and being forced to go to sea.
 
#4
Sobering really, when you think of the fate that would befall her a couple of years later in the South Atlantic.
 

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#5
Cocked the SLR to show clear with the mag still on ???
I seem to recall some ceremonial Guard mounts being done with mags on and showing clear with them on. Not done often and depending upon the RSM at the time!
 
#6
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

And the title has HMS Tamar in it, so I will recycle this thread instead of starting another on HMS TAMAR.

A dredger working off Kowloon (Honkers) last year dredged up some bits of ship which are from HMS TAMAR which which was scuttled off shore Kowloon. There are people who see British Colonial History in Hong Kong as an aberration and would prefer to pretend that it never happened and now there are people in Honkers who are trying to deny that the ship on the bottom is HMS T.

The history of HMS T is interesting and so is the article about the vessel, which has appeared in the South China Morning Post. Have a read:

All about the ship that gave Hong Kong’s Tamar complex its name
 
#7
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

And the title has HMS Tamar in it, so I will recycle this thread instead of starting another on HMS TAMAR.

A dredger working off Kowloon (Honkers) last year dredged up some bits of ship which are from HMS TAMAR which which was scuttled off shore Kowloon. There are people who see British Colonial History in Hong Kong as an aberration and would prefer to pretend that it never happened and now there are people in Honkers who are trying to deny that the ship on the bottom is HMS T.

The history of HMS T is interesting and so is the article about the vessel, which has appeared in the South China Morning Post. Have a read:

All about the ship that gave Hong Kong’s Tamar complex its name
@eodmatt I can see them one day juse sealing off both ends of the harbour and filling it in at some point. Not a huge engineering feat these days, especially given that they have reclaimed a lot so far, including beaching the old Tamar and basin.

I shudder to think what else they may dredge up given what even I threw off the Bull's Nose!
 
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@eodmatt I can see them one day juse sealing off both ends of the harbour and filling it in at some point. Not a huge engineering feat these days, especially given that they have reclaimed a lot so far, including beaching the old Tamar and basin.

I shudder to think what else they may dredge up given what even I threw off the Bull's Nose!
They also use a lot of dredged material to fill holes and smooth out the coastline. One area had several hundred UXO found after they had finished backfilling it. They also had a dredger f ucked when a 250lb bomb went off in its suction nose.

I have mates in HK EOD and last year had a beer in their mess. It's so much like a R Navy mess I caught myself looking to put my beret on when we left.
 

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#12
Two dits:

In 1957 my ship went to Plover \Cove to do some exercises. Later the cove was dammed off to make a reservoir.
Allegedly another ship went round there to play somewhat later and discovered that the dam was not on the chart.

By 1966 the docks had been filled in and a fast road soared over the top. Allegedly (again) the RN had put the filing in of the docks to tender and the winner just put a sign up saying Tip Here. In Chinese of course.
 
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And they have been told to STFU or ELSE! by China.
@eodmatt Just did a rough measure on google earth- to connect S of Jordan road to the island- 1200m. Slightly east of Kai Tak 600m, and a bit further east- 1500m. All distance approx. Imagine what the land would be worth of dammed, drained and built up. i can see it happening at some point. Streetview makes it appear that they are building next to Kai Tak runway.
 

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#16
In the bad old days watching big jets creaming in low over Kowloon to get into Kai Tak was a bit of a treat. Being in such an aircraft, perhaps not.
 
#18
There's a great thread on pprune regarding that - checkerboard arrivals.
 
#19
In the bad old days watching big jets creaming in low over Kowloon to get into Kai Tak was a bit of a treat. Being in such an aircraft, perhaps not.
Used to sail out under the flight path many a time, the skipper was determined to get the mast clipped by the under carriage wheels, not sure if that would of been a good outcome for all concerned.
 
#20
@eodmatt Just did a rough measure on google earth- to connect S of Jordan road to the island- 1200m. Slightly east of Kai Tak 600m, and a bit further east- 1500m. All distance approx. Imagine what the land would be worth of dammed, drained and built up. i can see it happening at some point. Streetview makes it appear that they are building next to Kai Tak runway.
Land is EXTREMELY expensive in Honkers - and in very short supply in the city areas. There is open land in some areas but those areas are designated green areas and parks and can't be built on, which is a good thing as the air in HK is very heavily polluted and needs some green areas to refresh the air. In fact if you leave HK by day from the airport you can actually see when your plane leaves the light brown smog and enters clean air.

Apartments and houses are very expensive in HK and so are very small. I was taken to one Chinese birds apartment in Kowloon in a posh apartment block - nothing to see from outside, just a stainless steel gate with card access and remotely monitored CCTV in a wall next to a 7/11 shop. Once inside you are monitored by CCTV to the (card access) lift and in the lift until you get to your floor and there are four apartment doors.

The apartment is about 25sq/m with a bathroom the size of a port loo but which has a state of the art crapper, a shower with H & C, an arrse blaster, a waterspray tooth pick, sink with H & C. The rest of the apartment is divided into a reception area big enough for 4 people to stand in, some small chairs and a kitchen the size of my fridge at home, the dining area is about the size of my dining table. The bedroom is a double bed above the kitchen diner reached by ladder.

The apartment is ultra modern with everything in it - electric kettle, rice make, microwave, double gas burner, mini fridge freezer. Laundry is done by a laundry next door to the block. The bed took some hammer that night.

A mate of mine has a similar apartment but on the outskirts of Saikung with access to hilly country walks and the famous Saikung water front where you can buy fresh sea food from the boats.

He tells me that if he wants a drink of water whilst watching TV, he just reaches over the back of his sofa and into the kitchen for a glass off the drainer. The chilled drinking water tap is a simple lever affair so its a moments work to fill the glass and enjoy a glass of chilled water from the kitchen without getting up from the sofa.

These tiny apartments cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy, depending on the location and rental is very expensive with a place like my mates costing 5 or 6 hundred dollars a month and up to a couple of thousand dollars a month in central areas.

There is now a growing problem of homeless people in HK, many of them old - and they live under motorway overpasses, in public parks in fact anywhere they can get shelter, because housing is so expensive and wages are low.

So wherever the government can claim land they do so as they can sell it for high prices.
 
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