HMRC tax crap

#1
Can i access my P45's for previous years through armynet (specifically 2008-09& 2009-10)?

i've had tax dramas ever since mobilising at the end of 2008 for HERRICK 10 which resulted in me paying approx £2.5k back over the last year, thought i'd had it all sorted but now i've had a letter through saying HMRC have no P45's from the army for anything after Dec 2008 (this is when i mobilised).

where can i track these down? the reason i ask about armynet is that due to never using it i cant remember my password (i could possibly guess at the memorable word) and i'm not sure if the answers to the personal questions are case sensitive or not but i cant seem to get past these.

if i cant access them through armynet is it a case for chilwell, glasgow or my TA unit (which i've just left)?
 
#3
i'm getting this second hand as my mrs opened the letter and said P45 (i've been thinking P60).

P60 would make sense but do you get a P45 at the end of your mobilisation?
 
#5
P60 would make much more sense as it would show what you earned that year and what you paid in Tax. P45 would just tell you what you had earnt at the point that you left that employment.

Thro, to be honest, I've not had a P45 from the army since finishing on H15.
 
#6
the more i think about it the more i reckon its just HMRC getting confused as i dont think you get a P45 once your mobilisation ends.

tbh my tax has been screwed up since 2008 so every time i get a letter from them i get so angry i cant think straight. i'm getting my mrs to scan and email it to me so i can try and make sense of it now rather than wait 4 hours till i get home
 
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#8
Personally I would ring them and have a chat. And you can see & print off P60's on ArmyNet
 
#9
Sounds like: they think you left the armed forces in 2008.
actually it looks like they've got that as my start date (although i joined in 2003). just got off the phone with them and they reckon they owe me approx £450 (although the last guy didnt so its 2-1 in favour of me getting paid), the only thing holding up them doing a review is the fact that they havent received a P60 for 2011-12 from the MOD, so i now need to track that down.

i think i might owe them £150 from tax on benefits in kind but at this point i'm losing track of it a bit (this all goes back to mobilising in 2008, at one point in 2009 i was paying NO tax, wtf!)
 
#12
Phone the JPAChelpline (details in your payslip), explain the problem and they will post copies to you very quickly.
cheers Duke, spoke to them today and i'll be getting the P60 next wk. the latest thinking is they owe me approx £500 and this is the last thing they need to do a review for last year (although i wont hold my breath as in the last wk we've gone from me owing them £1950, them owing me £300, me owing them £150 and now them owing me £450 although there is now some consistency on this).
 
#14
cheers, i've emailed the armynet login support address so that i can try and get access so hopefully they can help me get access.
You are meant to be able to see them on Armynet. Seeing as you can't see your payslip half the time I would work up a plan B.
 
#15
cheers Duke, spoke to them today and i'll be getting the P60 next wk. the latest thinking is they owe me approx £500 and this is the last thing they need to do a review for last year (although i wont hold my breath as in the last wk we've gone from me owing them £1950, them owing me £300, me owing them £150 and now them owing me £450 although there is now some consistency on this).
HMRC should have had your 2011/12 PAYE earnings and tax details sent through by the Army by now anyway. Usually gets sent electronically in May or June and is then automatically loaded onto their database
 
#16
HMRC should have had your 2011/12 PAYE earnings and tax details sent through by the Army by now anyway. Usually gets sent electronically in May or June and is then automatically loaded onto their database
i've highlighted the important bit here.

i dont know if they've lost it, never received it or just havent processed it but its probably easier for me to get it in the post this wk and forward it on to them.

it seemed to blow their minds that i had two employers at the same time and therefore didnt have a P45 for the MOD
 
#17
cheers Duke, spoke to them today and i'll be getting the P60 next wk. the latest thinking is they owe me approx £500 and this is the last thing they need to do a review for last year (although i wont hold my breath as in the last wk we've gone from me owing them £1950, them owing me £300, me owing them £150 and now them owing me £450 although there is now some consistency on this).
Sounds like they are bracketing you!
 
#18
i've highlighted the important bit here.

i dont know if they've lost it, never received it or just havent processed it but its probably easier for me to get it in the post this wk and forward it on to them.

it seemed to blow their minds that i had two employers at the same time and therefore didnt have a P45 for the MOD
I used to run a Schedule E team in a regional tax office before I went into IT with the Inland Revenue. The tape (probably some other digital media now) HMRC receive contains everyone in the Army's details.

That tape is run overnight in Telford Datacentre and the results can then be seen on individual taxpayer records from the following morning onwards. Very few mistakes happen. If they do happen you just rerun the update job.

From experience in the tax office my money is on no-one even bothered to check your record before asking for your P60. It's a common stalling tactic. They get 14 days to do "something" with every piece of post or information they receive. That something can be sending a request for a P60 (10 minutes) or do the assessment and refund (couple of hours). When they get your P60 the 14 days start again.
 
#19
I used to run a Schedule E team in a regional tax office before I went into IT with the Inland Revenue. The tape (probably some other digital media now) HMRC receive contains everyone in the Army's details.

That tape is run overnight in Telford Datacentre and the results can then be seen on individual taxpayer records from the following morning onwards. Very few mistakes happen. If they do happen you just rerun the update job.

From experience in the tax office my money is on no-one even bothered to check your record before asking for your P60. It's a common stalling tactic. They get 14 days to do "something" with every piece of post or information they receive. That something can be sending a request for a P60 (10 minutes) or do the assessment and refund (couple of hours). When they get your P60 the 14 days start again.
thanks for cheering me up! i also had two letters in two days with different tax codes, after speaking to them it seems they changed it then changed it back again "it shouldn't change again"
 
#20
thanks for cheering me up! i also had two letters in two days with different tax codes, after speaking to them it seems they changed it then changed it back again "it shouldn't change again"
Sorry it used to annoy me no end, but its a target driven job. They count how much post comes in and they count how much is left after 14 days. They get measured on having no post undealt with not what they actually do with it.

If its any comfort once they have your P60 they'll have few excuses not to sort you out
 

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