High Speed ChooChoo?

#1
Why would anyone need to get to Birmingham quicker? W001s
 
#3
total waste of bloody money, surely improving the current links and services would be a better use of tax payers money? Where the hell are they finding this magic pot of £32 billion for the HS2 anyway?
 
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#7
total waste of bloody money, surely improving the current links and services would be a better use of tax payers money? Where the hell are they finding this magic pot of £32 billion for the HS2 anyway?
Quite right Dervish! If they had spent the 32 billion (Plus all the other cash they've wasted) on improving the west coast main line, instead of farting about altering tiny little bits of it, we could have had a much longer much faster railway 20 years ago.
 
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Quite right Dervish! If they had spent the 32 billion (Plus all the other cash they've wasted) on improving the west coast main line, instead of farting about altering tiny little bits of it, we could have had a much longer much faster railway 20 years ago.

Errrrr - we tried that and it was nearly a complete disaster. Had to be rescued by Bechtel and caused years of misery to people travelling on that route.
 
#9
If any one of you fcukers even thinks about mentioning '*******' on this thread, I
shall unleash the Hounds of The Baskervilles to feast on your Knackers.
 
#10
It's a bit more than people complaining about loss of value to their property.
You could trawl through the geological issues in the Chiltern area alone to get an idea of what it will do to the landscape. Call me old fashioned, but I am quite fond England's green and pleasant land and would like to see as much of it stay that way as possible.

Chiltern Society | No HS2
 
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Errrrr - we tried that and it was nearly a complete disaster. Had to be rescued by Bechtel and caused years of misery to people travelling on that route.
I know mukker, I worked for BR for 11 years!
The point is they should have spent the cash and done the job right back then, but instead they fucked about with little bits until it was to fucked up to sort out!!!
 
#13
This is the first step in a long needed rejuvenation. Bodging up existing lines is pissing money away long term, we need to overhaul while it's still a possibility. Whats the point of trying to encourage people back to trains if, exactly when they start to rely on them, you need to close the aging line which can no longer cope with increased volume for "essential works"?

I agree, 32 billion is a lot of money but travelling in Britain is nothing but hassle. Getting anywhere is a monumental pain in the arse compared with many places I've visited or indeed resided. Not only is it slow and stressful, but it's overpriced and old. If we really want business back and to resurrect good old British manufacturing, this is exactly what we need. I just hope they stick with the extensions that are being mentioned.

It seems the incessant complainers of the world, mainly drawn from the Mail crowd, cannot be pleased. Do you want manufacturing and jobs? Do you want the country to be great? or do you want to cut public spending to zero?

I feel it's about time people learned to accept that a fit for purpose rail network is a marker for a modern economy, it's not there to make money in and of itself, it's there as a means to get people and things to places where they can make money. As such, it requires investment.

This is the opposite of the sticking plaster solutions Britain has stuck with for years. Patching up cracked roads which are unsuitable for harsh cold after another consecutive "unusually harsh winter" instead of just resurfacing roads correctly once.

Again, I'd really like to see governments look at the long term cost, not the short term saving. In this case, I think they have.
 
#14
The best for me was:

Lets spend the money on Re-Nationalizing the railway

then putting it all back to Pre Beeching settings.
 
#15
Right, you bugger, they are loose.
The interesting point is, the £32b is for the complete system ie Manchester and Leeds
we all know that there is no way that this estimate will remain at £32b...god knows
what it will have cost by the time it is complete.

I reckon the Govt. will spend a fortune(as usual) on research into the Project and then
decide it will be too expensive....back burner, here we come!

I enjoyed Waterman and the bloke argueing on BBC1 this morning, shame the Presenters
stepped in and stopped it, I think Waterman would have killed him.
 
#16
I live in the chilterns area about 15 mins from much of the affected area in Great Missenden etc and the damage it will do to the wildlife and nature in the area is fcuking disgraceful.
It will result in some very nice villages trashed, an appalling amount of damage to nature and peoples livelihoods ruined.
The HS2 link actually ploughs straight through a very successful organic farm owned by an ex Grenadier Guards Officer who has worked his bollocks off and put everything into making it a success.
Everyone who lives here is spitting feathers .....
The planners are fcuking cnuts......
 
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I know mukker, I worked for BR for 11 years!
The point is they should have spent the cash and done the job right back then, but instead they fucked about with little bits until it was to fucked up to sort out!!!
I worked for Network Rail. The WCML Project was a fiasco. Very lucky that someone called "Bullshit" and got Bechtel in. A pal of mine reckoned it would have been cheaper to have built new.
 
#19
It will result in some very nice villages trashed, an appalling amount of damage to nature and peoples livelihoods ruined.
Smacks of The Miners Strike that one, mind, you can't blame Her Maggieness for
HS2, however.................fcuking Tories!
 
#20
I live in the chilterns area about 15 mins from much of the affected area in Great Missenden etc and the damage it will do to the wildlife and nature in the area is fcuking disgraceful.
It will result in some very nice villages trashed, an appalling amount of damage to nature and peoples livelihoods ruined.
The HS2 link actually ploughs straight through a very successful organic farm owned by an ex Grenadier Guards Officer who has worked his bollocks off and put everything into making it a success.
Everyone who lives here is spitting feathers .....
The planners are fcuking cnuts......

I couldn't agree more...total fcuking cnuts.
 

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