Discussion in 'RAC' started by taggytwo, Jan 15, 2008.

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  1. On another site it was asked why the Household Cavalry have no VC's, so what is the real reason?

    I was once told as the soveriegns escort they are exceedingly brave and therefore need no further recognition. being a Footguard myself I really cant believe that twaddle.
  2. Is that right, ie: that the Life Guards and Blues & Royals haven't won any VCs? I'm surprised.

    Can't be many regiments that have no VCs at all can there?
  3. Et voila. It doesn't say how he won it. Will Google him shortly.
  4. "In June 1917, while he was serving in the First Royal Dragoons, he died from wounds he received at Epehy in France. He was protecting an N.C.O. of the Royal Engineers who was cutting wire which had been laid by the enemy. Although he was wounded by the enemy's fire, he continued to direct his men until the wire-cutting operation had been successfully completed. He remained conscious but died from his wounds the next day. The Victoria Cross which he was posthumously awarded was received by his father John Dunville from King George V at Buckingham Palace in August 1917."
  5. His Picture and details can be found HERE
  6. Were that the case would it not also apply to GCs? Trooper Finney's award rather blows that out of the water doesn't it?
  7. Right, lets get this straight, this question was not intended as an insult just a request for information, i would never ever slag off the Blue Red Blue, apart from the sheepy boys, who are fair game.
  8. The_Butler brought this up many moons ago,stating that as the VC was for outstanding bravery beyond the line of duty,selflessly endangering yourself,etc etc which according to him was par for the course for the Houshold Cavalry and that Queen Victoria expected nothing less of her big booted protectors!

    Wait out someones knocking on my door.............................Breakfast is served.......thanks Butler! :D
  10. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    Is it not a Lifeguard thing?
    As it was explained to me:
    Lifeguards as senior regiment set the standards for the rest to follow
    Therefore as everyone else receives gallantry awards for actions beyond normally what is expected...these standards are expected of the Lifeguards anyway
    That is why when Lifeguards do win an award they are credited as Tropper xx xx Household Cavalry Regiment and not Lifeguards to allow them to be nominated and awarded something whilst still following tradition

    Hope this helps
  11. Possibly the great load of bollocks I´ve seen posted on ARRSE since it all started in 2002.

    The_Butler is closest to the truth, that LG and RHG were considered above the medal thing by Queen Victoria. 1 and 2 HCR just didn´t win any VCs in WW2 - so what. HCR Lite has only been around since 1994 and have done pretty well on operational awards since then, so it seems that the old victorian tradition has been dropped.
  12. I was told it was because "nothing could be above or beyond the call of duty for the sovereigns bodyguard". A bit out dated i reckon. Point to note, D Sqn HCR is one of the most highly decorated units in the Army.
  13. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    Possibly is the greatest load of balls ever on Arsse (have you read some of Sven's posts?)
    However that is how it was explained to me when I was attached to A sqn in 2004
    There were at least 2 officers and and SCM present an none debunked it

    Edited to add
    D Sqn at the time were Blues and Royals (although I think the sun stated they were Lifeguards)
    A Sqn were Lifeguards