Herford/Hereford - IRA Murders - Urban Myth?

#1
Going back to those two poor under cover (Sigs?) blokes who blundered into that IRA funeral in Belfast, they were dragged out of their car, beaten and murdered by the crowd (still haunts me that television news footage).

When I was in, many moons ago, the buzz was that on searching them before they were shot one of them was found to be carrying his SOXMIS card (everyone in BAOR had to carry one to report sightings of SOXMIS vehicles). This having the bit where it says "if you spot a SOXMIS veh phone Herford 123456", when this was noticed by the murderers they thought it said Hereford and that these guys were therefore from the SAS.

Is this true or is it another urban myth? Only asking because a civvie told me this today again as gospel.

For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
 
#2
StumpyHussar said:
Going back to those two poor under cover (Sigs?) blokes who blundered into that IRA funeral in Belfast
Cpls Howes and Cpl Wood. Royal Signals technicians from 39 Bde.

Their memory is honoured at Blandford with the Howes and Wood Memorial Shed :roll:
 
#3
Sounds plausible. I used to get them mixed up as well (when I was about ten).
 
#5
jimmys_best_mate said:
StumpyHussar said:
Going back to those two poor under cover (Sigs?) blokes who blundered into that IRA funeral in Belfast
Cpls Howes and Cpl Wood. Royal Signals technicians from 39 Bde.

Their memory is honoured at Blandford with the Howes and Wood Memorial Shed :roll:
There was a monument on Richmond Road In Catterick Garrison also
 
#6
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
that right. Embassy cars.
 
#7
Filbert Fox said:
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
that right. Embassy cars.
No, not Embassy cars. The Soviet Military Mission to the Commander BAOR was quite a sepearate entity.
 
#8
they were hardly soviet intellence gathering cars!
 
#10
I stand corrected, but did anyone ever see a SOXMIS car doing anything reportable, I never did and Ive never met anyone who did.
 
#12
I've never even heard the 'I know a bloke who saw..' kind of stories.
 
#13
Xerxes_Blue_Cat said:
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
Extra pedantry: SOviet Exchange Mission
...and wrong.
 
#14
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
Yeah, that's what he said: SOXMIS=Soviets=Ruskies. Why would Herford have wanted sightings of BRIXMIS cars reporting to them?
 
#15
wedge35 said:
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
Yeah, that's what he said: SOXMIS=Soviets=Ruskies. Why would Herford have wanted sightings of BRIXMIS cars reporting to them?
When you spotted them it was a number in Herford you had to call to report it. This was to try to keep a track of where they went. We all were issued these and carried in the wallet.
 
#16
Bonzo_Dog said:
Xerxes_Blue_Cat said:
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
Extra pedantry: SOviet Exchange Mission
...and wrong.
Is it? Expand...
 

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#17
Xerxes_Blue_Cat said:
Bonzo_Dog said:
Xerxes_Blue_Cat said:
Cholmondley-Warner said:
StumpyHussar said:
For the curious SOXMIS= Marked Russian intelligence gathering car.
Sorry, don't like being a fcking pedant, but wasn't SOXMIS the collective noun for members of the SOvietMISsion in Germany? I'm sure ours was BRIXMIS etc
Extra pedantry: SOviet Exchange Mission
...and wrong.
Is it? Expand...
It is SOVIET MILITARY LIAISON MISSION

Here is the card:
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/2927/password/sort/1/cat/all/page/1
 
#18
Yep I remember you carried your SOXMIS card and GREEN ROA card when on duty. If you sighted one in a area where they shouldnt be you had to detain them by boxing them in on autobahns etc, personally never saw one though
 
#19
Well I stand corrected just saw card DO NOT DETAIN but Im sure on Int briefings if we had one in our convoy we had to detain, im confused and it was a long time ago.
 
#20
Filbert Fox said:
I stand corrected, but did anyone ever see a SOXMIS car doing anything reportable, I never did and Ive never met anyone who did.
I suppose you've never been to Berlin then? Like a rash they were all uber the platz and were a pain in the arrse. One used to stop out side of Smuts Barracks and twice in two years phoned the guard room to tell them the Union flag was upside down.

That aside we laid a trap for one that kept going onto the Hohne range military road which they were banned from. It kept stopping and taking photos of passing traffic etc. We staged an OP watching the motorway on the days it came and then we had our Recce troop waiting round the corner which was supposed to come round and box the car in.

Weeks it went on and then one day they appeared, we sprung the Recce troop trap and the beggars reversed up the bank and got away.

All designed to embarress them but it was us with egg on our faces. Oh the excitement :roll:
 
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