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Right... My son has passed all exams.. Got is offer through... Got the date to leave for Pirbright... Got a phone call today telling him its been deferred for 6 months because of a DR and speeding fine on his licence.. Even though he told the recruitment officer at the beginning and they said it didn't matter!!! The DR about three years ago and the same with the speeding fine... Both paid up.. He didn't know he was to declare them on the criminal convictions form, as they are road traffic related!!! Is there anything we can do.. He was supposed to do the Oath of Allegiance on Thursday...... He is now absolutely gutted, plus no job as he gave that up last week.... Feel like he's been shat on.....
 
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DR is taken quite seriously(rightly so) from a recruitment perspective. With the way things are now the Army can afford to be more selective and even if your son is a good lad with his 5% below an A grade, there are bound to be applicants who are just as good without the DR against their name.

Everybody makes mistakes in life and I hope he manages to get his job back. I'm sure you have already given him a good beating for drink driving and now he just has to accept that a 6 month deferral is better than a blatant no.

Kids eh, who'd 'av 'em.
 
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DR10 under the Rehabilitation Of Offenders Act 1974 is not "spent" for a period of 5 years and is not eligible for removal from the licence until 11 YEARS after conviction - the 3 points are usually removed after 3 years depending on how they were achieved. Incidentally a civil offence registered on the Regimental Conduct sheet is never removed even though it may be "spent" in civvy law circles - Hope he manages to get a Reg conduct sheet eventually - bad drills!
 

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He didn't know he was to declare them on the criminal convictions form, as they are road traffic related!!!
So by that logic you are assuming that no criminal acts can be committed whilst driving? Good luck to him, but I hope he's learned a lesson there!
 
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Although you're technically correct that Drink Driving is a "motoring offence" it's a little more serious than 3 points for speeding on the A303.

You're son is a mong.
He made his mistake and is paying for it..... Your a twat!!! Don't judge someone you don't know....yes he was stupid and believe me I balled him out, don't condone what he did, but when he told the recruitment officer at the beginning that he had a drink driving offence and they say that's fine you dont need worry about that, as he did with the speeding offence also, you would think it was ok.... Grrrrrrrr
 
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Did you just say Grrrrrrr?! As an adult? Don't get me wrong I would be keen to protect the internet image of my kids too but Grrrr?!

Welcome to Arse, It's all downhill from here.
 
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Have had a call from said recruitment office ... And spoke at length to them.... He has been deferred for 6 months and has to do the whole process again, but can't apply for anything that needs an HGV licence.... What jobs don't need an HGV apart from paper pushing jobs (sorry if I offend anyone for job description!!)
 

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He made his mistake and is paying for it..... Your a twat!!! Don't judge someone you don't know....yes he was stupid and believe me I balled him out, don't condone what he did, but when he told the recruitment officer at the beginning that he had a drink driving offence and they say that's fine you dont need worry about that, as he did with the speeding offence also, you would think it was ok.... Grrrrrrrr
Mate, unless you get something like that in writing, in triplicate and signed in unicorn blood I wouldn't ever take it for granted that it's correct. People will say anything, but unless they're willing to commit to it in writing, take it with a pinch of salt. I do understand how frustrating that is though, a relative went through the exact same scenario when applying for the police force. He succeeded in the end!
 
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Unfortunately some recruitment staff dont have a scooby when it comes to the law - in all not their fault and a problem that should be addressed - you could write a letter to the AG on this for review but I think it will be backs to the wall
the message is drink driving seriously fucks you up in many ways, not least physically.
 
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Did you just say Grrrrrrr?! As an adult? Don't get me wrong I would be keen to protect the internet image of my kids too but Grrrr?!

Welcome to Arse, It's all downhill from here.
yes I said Grrrr ... Just off night shift and very bloody tired after dealing with twats that screw the system and don't want to work claiming they have mental problems!!!! But you have to smile and be nice.......
 
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Theres a lot more into this and a lot will depend on his age, job he is going for and his integrity when first completing his 493 Rehabilitation of Offenders form...he has obviously since completed a Disclosure Scotland form where this was found out. If he is under 22 in most cases he would need no more than 3 points on his licence in many 0 points...by the sounds of things he hasn't officially got his licence back (that DR will stay on there for 10 years). Once the ACIO has seen that his Disclosure Scotland has this on they will of flagged it up to RG Caseworker on a 203 Special enlistment form who will of made this decision.......for best clarification ask to sit with the Senior recruiter so that it can be explained better but unfortunately this is stuff your son should of disclosed on his 493 and been honest at each interview about. There are sometimes Recruits who slip the net and get through phase 1 only to be discharged in phase 2 once they are found to of not been open with the truth.
 
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Have had a call from said recruitment office ... And spoke at length to them.... He has been deferred for 6 months and has to do the whole process again, but can't apply for anything that needs an HGV licence.... What jobs don't need an HGV apart from paper pushing jobs (sorry if I offend anyone for job description!!)
Firstly the term is PEN pushing.

There are quite a few jobs that don't require HGV. I would take a look on the actual Army webpage. Unless it is a driving job, you can pretty much be sure you don't need HGV. Also you will always be better speaking to the careers office as they are fully informed on these matters.

Good luck
 
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Sorry to have got the job description wrong.... Blame it my tiredness....

the staff Sargent at the office is going to email him jobs he can do.. He was going into Royal Artillery, but has the added probs of being colour deficient too!! Wanted engineers to begin with,.... Anyway, lesson has been learnt, don't trust anyone who says it doesn't matter......

the iron.... He is only 21, points come off in April next yr for the speeding.
 
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