Help to PID an 1980's military vehicle id sticker.

#4
What was it as a matter of interest? (former owner of 20 FM 80)
 
#6
If nobody knows the answer can they point me towards an MOD contact that might be able to tell me? I'd really like to find out so I can put the id back on the bonnet and display it at shows as part of that unit, or at least tell people what unit it refers to.
 
#7
71 Engineer Regiment (Volunteers) is under command of 51 (Scottish) Brigade based in Stirling.
 
#8
Possibly:

Royal Regiment of Scotland (71st) - disbanded 2006.
(Scottish Military History Website - Introduction)

71 Engr (Volunteers) - based in Stirling under 51 (Scottish) Bde (army.mod.uk/royalengineers/units/848.aspx)

71 Sigs Unit - had radar in Benbecula
(www.secretscotland.org.uk/.../QinetiQSUKPrivatisedMilitaryChecklist )

If the sticker is circa 80's, then the first is more probable. Shame there's no Unit map marking sticker also to indicate type of Unit (rectangle with X for Infantry etc).
 
#9
I don't think the 71 signifies the numerical designation of a unit beginning with those numbers, but rather a designation applied by HQ Scotland to a unit under command
 
#10
Possibly:

Royal Regiment of Scotland (71st) - disbanded 2006.
(Scottish Military History Website - Introduction)

71 Engr (Volunteers) - based in Stirling under 51 (Scottish) Bde (army.mod.uk/royalengineers/units/848.aspx)

71 Sigs Unit - had radar in Benbecula
(http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-his....uk/.../QinetiQSUKPrivatisedMilitaryChecklist )

If the sticker is circa 80's, then the first is more probable. Shame there's no Unit map marking sticker also to indicate type of Unit (rectangle with X for Infantry etc).
IIRC, the 71st Regiment of Foot was the fore-runner to the 1st Battalion, Highland Light Infantry, which later merged with the 74th Regiment of Foot in 1881, when that became their 2nd Battalion. Far from being disbanded in 2006, the HLI amalgamated with the Royal Scots Fusiliers to become the Royal Highland Fusiliers, the latter of whom remain as one of five Battalions in the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
 
#11
Assuming my sketchy memory of my time in the Hebs is correct, the Radar unit was an RAF one one on South Clettraval and, whilst I was there, didn't use that sort of numerical tag, it would be more along the lines of ##/BUC/##. Besides which most rovers to go to the uists came back via the scrap heap.
The other 2 radars were run by SERCO and the RA, though this really doesn't help.
 
#12
Thank you so much for this everyone. All very intersting.

@ HIGHLANDER_SPY

I have had some useful information from the EMLRA, a chap called Clive Elliott has written an article that explains these stickers and it reads thus:

Clive Elliott said:
Vehicle Marking Requirements as defined in 1977
The previous regulations issued in March 1975 were soon to be outmoded by the Defence Review later that year. The implications of it took a little while to filter through into new regulations. The thrust of the review was a “one Army concept” ie TAVR and Regular Units are to be treated alike including the elimination of markings that make such distinctions, together with markings that are not strictly necessary. These changes were to be completed by certain dates within the year starting 1st April 1977. Disbandments defined dates by which some signs would become obsolete anyway, notably the disbandment of the 3rd Division in the UK on 31st July 1977 and HQ 19 Airportable Brigade on 31st March 1978.

The new vehicle signs comprise two elements separated by an oblique stroke.

The first element. This consists of numbers or letters, which indicate the formation or district to which the vehicle belongs.

The second element. This consists only of numbers and will be specific to the unit that the vehicle belongs.


Example:


SW/10 is HQ Sowdist.
SE/21 is a unit in South East District not allotted to any operational formation.
2/40 is the Army Air Corps Squadron of 6th Brigade

These signs in WHITE, based on a self-adhesive clear film, are to be 27mm/96 Point in height. They are to be displayed on vehicles on the front (offside) and at the rear. The sign should be at the lowest vertical surface immediately above the bumper, where no vertical surface is available then the angled forward edge of the bonnet above the headlamps is to be used. On trailers, the sign is to be displayed at the rear only. The background is just the normal colour of the vehicle, but in BAOR the characters are to be WHITE stencils 51mm high on a matt BLACK patch of appropriate size. Black painted staff and utility cars are not to carry any identifying signs, with the exception of Star Plates when applicable.
This is why I ssume that the # part is refering to a Unit rather than a specific Vehicle, I think your right that 71 may not refer to a regiment with the number 71 but rather some kind of matrix, I would assume that this information would have been fairy pointless unless someone had a list of what these numbers refered to.

Would there be a department of he Army I could write to for more information do you think?
 
#13
You could try the Museum of Army Transport at Leconfield although they may not have the information, they could possibly point you in the right direction
 

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