Help required with unit ID

[green_slime]

Trying to identify the Regt/Corps for this chap. From long haired CO's side of family and they say he was Northumberland Fusiliers but to my eye it looks like RAMC?

 

[vvaannmmaann]

RAMC Collar Dogs

Northumberland Fusiliers WW1 Collar Dog.

Do they have his 'red book' or any other documents?

 

[ste14w]

Definitely RAMC collar badge.

It's possible that he may have transferred to or from the Northumberland Fusiliers.

 

[ste14w]

RAMC Collar Dogs
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Northumberland Fusiliers WW1 Collar Dog.
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Jinx!

 

[Uglyfatgit]

Trying to identify the Regt/Corps for this chap. From long haired CO's side of family and they say he was Northumberland Fusiliers but to my eye it looks like RAMC?

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Trying to identify the Regt/Corps for this chap. From long haired CO's side of family and they say he was Northumberland Fusiliers but to my eye it looks like RAMC?

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May have been attached to NF. Family always said that my great uncle was Black Watch, however a check of records showed he was RAMC attached to BW.

 

[whiffler]

Indeed, worth bearing in mind that his postal address if attached to RNF would have been via their equivalent of BFPO back in those days. This would stick in mind of younger family as the address features large in their memories.

Happy to be shot down by experts.

 

[Just_plain_you]

Paging @FourZeroCharlie

 

[green_slime]

Thanks, very helpful and will help with some more digging

 

[FourZeroCharlie]

Got a name and Service/Regimental number for him?

 

[green_slime]

Think he is called John Spence, 1960s service - that's all we know.

 

[FourZeroCharlie]

Sorry, chap - can't help, then.

. . . though I'd query that photo as 1960s?

 

[Endoscope]

1916 maybe...

 

[Union Jack]

Presumably you have checked the back of the photo for any clues....

Jack

 

[Signalman]

I know that down in this neck of the woods a very large proportion of WW1 recruits were first enlisted into the local infantry regiment before being reassigned to their 'proper' regiment/corps. Might that be a possible explanation?

 

[Tartan_Terrier]

Sorry, chap - can't help, then.

. . . though I'd query that photo as 1960s?

Agreed, looks pre WW2 to me. The crown on the badge looks to be a King's crown too.

 

[Bodenplatte]

Looks to me that he is wearing No 1 Dress rather than khaki SD, and a regimentally coloured side hat. The RAMC side hat was dark blue with a dark crimson crown. The two colours might not stand out as different on an old b/w photo.

As somebody has pointed out, the collar badges bear the old "King's Crown", so this would seem to date the image as no later than Coronation year, 1953, though it took a while for the new Queens Crown badges to filter through to everybody.

The photo could date from - say - 1950, and the man could quite easily still have been serving right up until the 1970s, possibly even the 80s, so the suggestion in post #10 above that he saw service in the 1960s is perfectly possible.

 

[Dwarf]

Looks to me that he is wearing No 1 Dress rather than khaki SD, and a regimentally coloured side hat. The RAMC side hat was dark blue with a dark crimson crown. The two colours might not stand out as different on an old b/w photo.

As somebody has pointed out, the collar badges bear the old "King's Crown", so this would seem to date the image as no later than Coronation year, 1953, though it took a while for the new Queens Crown badges to filter through to everybody.

The photo could date from - say - 1950, and the man could quite easily still have been serving right up until the 1970s, possibly even the 80s, so the suggestion in post #10 above that he saw service in the 1960s is perfectly possible.

There might be a difference in tracking him down as pre-WW1 it was NF, post WW1 RNF.
RNF side cap was IIRC dark green below maroon on top.

 

[Bodenplatte]

There might be a difference in tracking him down as pre-WW1 it was NF, post WW1 RNF.
RNF side cap was IIRC dark green below maroon on top.

IMHO it's a much more recent photograph, late 1940s/early 1950s, though the condition makes it look older.
Any allusion to the Fighting Fifth is a red herring - the RAMC badges are as clear as can be.

 

[putteesinmyhands]

RAMC Collar Dogs
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One of them is. The other is a reverse image - unless the RAMC is unique in having a mirrored motto.

 

[Dwarf]

IMHO it's a much more recent photograph, late 1940s/early 1950s, though the condition makes it look older.
Any allusion to the Fighting Fifth is a red herring - the RAMC badges are as clear as can be.

I'm clear about the RAMC badge, but if he was NF/RNF attached then the unit designation could make a difference. The cap does make it look more modern than WW1 that I will agree.