Help Please-Old Kit

#1
I thought I would chance my arm here and see if the ARRSE community can help out.
A friend of mine runs a game lodge in Kenya. Not as flash as it may sound. He is a naturalist and conservationist and leases the land off the local community which in turn employs a lot of them and the majority of earnings are poured back into the community primarily for education and to fund the huge animal conservation and anti-poaching programme.
Unlike the large, commercial places such as Lewa, they receive no funding, backing or sponsorship from the govt.

To cut a long story short-Kenya is experiencing a prolonged drought which has resulted in a shit state of affairs. Tourism is down but the most pressing issue is the fact that the cattle drovers and wild animals are migrating to find water. This in turn brings the poachers which are then followed by an ever increasing criminal element. Along with a mate (both recently left the army) we have decided to go out to help provide some training/mentoring for the 18 strong scout/security force of local Masai. We are going to go out for 2 weeks of our annual leave at our cost. Nothing better to do!

At present they are seriously ill equipped. They have olive drab uniform which is now threadbare having been handed down from the Kenyan Police. We are trying to accumulate enough gear to kit them out and give them a better chance.

Therefore, what I am asking for is any kit any of you may have lying around that is no good/not worth anything over here.
We have already pillaged mates garages etc but need lots more of the following;
lightweights, OG shirts, jersey heavy wools, socks, boots, norwegians, 58 pattern webbing, DPM smocks(temperate through to 95) 58 pattern ponchos, belts, waterbottles/carriers, roll mats, doss bags, tents.................that should paint a picture.

Anyway, like I said I thought I would chance my arm here as I know how helpful people the Arrse community can be.
Its for a good cause and a needy lot, If anyone can help then it will be really appreciated by us, the locals and the game wardens themselves.

Would be able to collect in southern England or will pay for postage.

Thanks.
 
#2
if you have any short people (5-6ft, no taller) I might be able to throw a few smocks in.

and the 58 webbing... might be able to donate LOADS of it! will have a word...
 
#4
PM your address - got some odds and ends which I am about to chuck out. When are you going out?

Cheers
CC
 
#5
CC, thanks, will PM address. Shipping is the cheapest option at the moment if we get enough kit and we will need to get to Liverpool or Folkestone by the end of the month. Otherwise, big bills in excess luggage!
 
#6
#7
Field Textiles are trade-only though right?

Maybe if you spend enough with them they'll let you buy with them. I think there's a £250 rule or something...
 
#8
Fuck that, let's get some Wild Geese shit going on I've got 58 days on my leave card, who can get a Herc and some guns?
 
#9
Re the cost of shipping:

There's a QM's Dept here....


....there's a Qm's Dept in Kenya, I'm sure we could squeeze a bit more out of the system :)
 
#10
Cheers fellas. All over Field Textiles although they are trade only with a minimum spend of £250...gulp. They weren't too helpful either as if I were to buy say 10 x lightweights, they come in the full size range. So we would get skinny boy up to fat boy sizes.

Spaz, now were talking. We could go via Equitorial Guinea and pick up Simon Mann en route from Black Beach. Poor sod!
 
#11
Game Lodge? Thought there was no Game shooting in Kenya? If there was a properly established shooting and conservation industry there would be a lot less poaching, certainly that's the experience elsewhere.....

Like the Wild Geese idea! :)
 
#12
EX_STAB said:
Game Lodge? Thought there was no Game shooting in Kenya? If there was a properly established shooting and conservation industry there would be a lot less poaching, certainly that's the experience elsewhere.....

Like the Wild Geese idea! :)
EX_STAB, my bad. By game lodge it is actually an eco-lodge. It was built with the main intention being to support the local Mokogodo Massai. The thought process being that a sustainable wildlife conservation programme will support their tradidional pastoral ways and be a viable alternative land use in its own right. Lewa wildlife conservancy is a great example of it working but on a much bigger scale.
You are right though, a well managed industry does work.
 
#13
CDO-HARALDO said:
EX_STAB said:
Game Lodge? Thought there was no Game shooting in Kenya? If there was a properly established shooting and conservation industry there would be a lot less poaching, certainly that's the experience elsewhere.....

Like the Wild Geese idea! :)
EX_STAB, my bad. By game lodge it is actually an eco-lodge. It was built with the main intention being to support the local Mokogodo Massai. The thought process being that a sustainable wildlife conservation programme will support their tradidional pastoral ways and be a viable alternative land use in its own right. Lewa wildlife conservancy is a great example of it working but on a much bigger scale.
You are right though, a well managed industry does work.
Sounds like an eco lodge doesn't work quite as well. Doesn't the traditional pastoral life of the Masai involve killing lots of lions? ;)

Hope things work out for them.....I don't have any kit to offer I'm afraid...
 
#14
Find out who is going on a Grand Prix and see if it can be shipped with them as it's for a good cause. Might even give your mate an "in" for some R & R type stuff from the lads and lasses.
 
#15
Thanks. What do you mean by an 'in'?
Anyone know who is next out on Grand Prix?
One of my mates has got a job with the firm that does the TESEX kit supporting Grand Prix but is out of the country and wouldn't be able to get it out until early next year.
Anyone in the logistics chain with a heads up?
 
#16
''In'' is short for ''in road''.......... a bit like a heads up but doesn't sound as sexy.
 
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#18
Lads,

I'm the other ex regular bloke going out to help and all the advice above and offers of help are mega appreciated.

The Masai security staff on the lodge have uniforms and kit that are falling to pieces and would take such pride in wearing basic kit that we would see as out of date.

Thanks again all of you, please keep the ideas and offers coming!
 
#20
Can I offer a small bit of advice without wanting to sound like the CO or RSM.

I appreciate you have both left the military and it is a good thing you are doing - I would happily come along but I have an impending move to the US, maybe next time if you go again. Anyway the advice, before the dodgy media picks it up or you land yourself in the doo doo for such things as training mercenary forces, militias or other such things is to get yourself an official sponsor.

I do not mean get someone to bankroll it, that would be nice though, I mean get in contact with the British Embassy in Kenya and make them aware of what you are intending. Africa is a peculiar place to be knocking around and the prisons are not condusive to fine cuisine and visitors. For example, whilst it is fine for visiting military personnel to go knocking around in camo gear and webbing in many nations for civvies it is not allowed upon threat of imprisonment ........ it harks back to white imperialist executive options types knocking around and trying to overthrow Governments.

Some mates and myself are planning a foray (Dec. 2011, 6 weeks) thru NW African Sahara and down into Ghana so I have researched and read around the subject of travelling thru many African countries. I also have a mate who was 'vun of Zem' that went off and did Kilmanjaro recently with a couple of ex 2 REP guys. He explained about not wearing camo in Kenya - him and the other two were carrying lots of OG kit (not camo) and they got hassle from Kenyan customs and had to show proof they were doing Kili and not on some merc adventure.

Not nagging or piss taking just an old fart trying to offer some advice. It is a good thing you are doing and I am sorry I have no kit.
 

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