HELP NEEDED.......Warrant Officer Leader or Manager?

Discussion in 'Seniors' started by Masters, Jul 30, 2013.

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  1. Hi,
    Need some feedback on a report that I am completing for a civvy qual:

    Warrant Officer - Leader or Manager (or both), also comparing a Warrant Officer Class One / Two to a LE Officer, what is the difference? Does the LEOC Cse change the WO into a manager rather than a leader - discuss

    Many Thanks
  2. If that's the best analysis you can produce then I'd start looking at alternative aualifications.
  3. I may be a little word challenged - is aualifications a new word or did you mean to hit q?
  4. Being sensible though, I imagine it will depend on what you are applying for and it's context. Either/or and both could easily apply.
  5. The job you do, rather than the pay bracket you fall into, defines whether or not you are a leader, a manager, a trainer, an instructor, an enabler, a facilitator, a coordinator, et cetera, a combination of two or more of these, or none of these.
  6. I think you are, it isn't and I didn't. My aualifications and experience speak for themselves:

    DATE OF BIRTH 14th January 1953
    DOMICILE Sindh (Karachi)
    NATIONALITY Pakistani
    RELIGION Islam
    (Since October 24, 2002)
    H.E.J. Research Institute of Chemistry,
    University of Karachi, Karachi.

    Examination Division Year Board/University
    Matric 1st 1969 Karachi Board
    Inter Science 1st 1971 Karachi Board
    B.Sc. 2nd 1973 Karachi University
    M.Sc. 1st with distinction
    82% marks
    1975* Karachi University
    Ph.D. 1985 Karachi University
  7. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

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  8. Manager.

    Leaders set strategy. Managers implement the strategy.

    WOs generally implement someone else's strategy
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  9. Truly? I think you are putting borders where there are none.

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  10. It's a fuzzy boundary, and I did say generally. That's how it was put to us on a recent course I attended that was aimed at taking IT Project & Programme Managers onto more senior roles.

    I don't think it's a bad model
  11. Drivers_lag

    Drivers_lag On ROPs

    I've heard WO's described as 'middle management'

    For what it's worth.
  12. I am sure management I am civil service and anything above an E grade ie D and up is a manager there is floating about somewhere rough equivalent grades
  13. What time is it in the Congo?
  14. Describe yourself to your best advantage, civilian employers want to know what you can do and where you are coming from. Personally when I left as a WO1 and started in civy street it was as an Estate manager I finished up as an Executive Director. If you think you can achieve something then go for it, after all what have you got to lose!
  15. "Discuss".....why?