Help needed sending medical supplies abroad.

#1
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My brother in law works for Dorset County Ambulance service, he's also in the St John and tells me that he holds the rank of a Lt Col and that I should salute him ... civvy twit ... but I digress. They have a large stock of medical supplies i.e. Defibrillators and the such that they would like to donate, perhaps somewhere such as Kenya. Does anyone have a contact that he could speak to about this?

Many thanks
 

Schaden

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
I'll do it for a £100 plus freight and clearing charges.

On a serious note he's better off sending them some cash cause you are going to have a bitch of a time getting 2nd hand medical devices through customs of a 3rd world country.

Pm me if you're serious so that I can point out the myriad of fuckups and pitfalls that may occur.


(edit make that £500 plus freight, import duties and clearing charges.)
 
#4
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Is there no way of taking it out on a Medic Exercise or just post it bit by bit to Desmond Tutu Hospice, Umbungo Land? I might sell the defibs on eBay as Ab Toners ... ex-SAS, SBS and Para of course.
 

Schaden

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
Duke pm answered - from the Kenyan Internal Revenue website.
In the case of packaged pharmaceuticals, chemicals (including dyestuffs, paints, water treatment chemicals, etc.), cosmetics, fertilizer and similar goods subject to quality inspection, the PSI company shall check the number of batches, dates of expiration and integrity of the packaging. (iii) All imports with a limited shelf life must be subjected to quality inspection and the PSI company shall ensure that such goods have more than three-quarters shelf life from the date of expected landing in Kenya.
(iv) Tests of samples shall be performed upon request by KRA/Customs or a responsible government agency, through KRA/Customs or when the PSI Company needs to ensure the classification and quality of an item.
(v) The PSI Company shall ensure that published Kenya Bureau of Standards (KEBS) standards, any specific laws or regulations, or any other acceptable international standards are complied with for all goods subject to detailed quality inspections. If any goods fail to meet the standards, a CCRF shall not be issued thereon.
 
#6
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My brother in law works for Dorset County Ambulance service, he's also in the St John and tells me that he holds the rank of a Lt Col and that I should salute him ... civvy twit ... but I digress. They have a large stock of medical supplies i.e. Defibrillators and the such that they would like to donate, perhaps somewhere such as Kenya. Does anyone have a contact that he could speak to about this?

Many thanks
Yes. The things of which you speak might be useful in Laos. So if he wants to donate them there, send me a pm.
 
#7
Top tip never mark anything medical if you are sending anywhere. Customs round the world are notorious about the stuff.

I've sent defibs labelled as electrical activity detectors to get them into shit holes

Better deal direct with some charidies instead, although they are incredibly sniffy about what they use etc

I'd skip it and go to the pub.

Tell your st johns fuctard Lt Col he can suck the big dogs cock. ******* wierdo rank ******
 
#8
Top tip never mark anything medical if you are sending anywhere. Customs round the world are notorious about the stuff.

I've sent defibs labelled as electrical activity detectors to get them into shit holes

Better deal direct with some charidies instead, although they are incredibly sniffy about what they use etc

I'd skip it and go to the pub.

Tell your st johns fuctard Lt Col he can suck the big dogs cock. ******* wierdo rank ******[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha,that genuinely tickled me,I am going to use that,if I may?
 
#9
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Ha Ha, thanks for the replies. I knew ARRSE could solve a problem. Anyone wanna buy a defib?
 
#12
Last time a Medical Unit went to Kenya they were asking for various basic medical supplies to give away to hospitals/clinics out there. It could be worth checking with the next Med Regiment that's going out to see if they are prepared to take items with them.
 
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EScotia

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#13
Last time a Medical Unit went to Kenya they were asking for various basic medical supplies to give away to hospitals/clinics out there. It could be worth checking with the next Med Regiment that's going out to see if they are prepared to take items with them.
There's one going in a few months!
 
#14
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My brother in law works for Dorset County Ambulance service, he's also in the St John and tells me that he holds the rank of a Lt Col and that I should salute him ... civvy twit ... but I digress. They have a large stock of medical supplies i.e. Defibrillators and the such that they would like to donate, perhaps somewhere such as Kenya. Does anyone have a contact that he could speak to about this?

Many thanks
interesting questions

quite why he's asking externally for overseas sources to donate old kit, i'm not sure, as the Order of St John HQ will have contacts with overseas SJA priories , commandaries and associated bodies ... tell him to speak to the chair of council or Order HQ , one would hope that an SO(2) would know a little aobut the Structure of SJA , though if he'd been parachuted into role 'because he works for the ambulance service '

MPH
SO(3) SJA
 
#15
PM inbound. I know a volunteer ambulance organisation that requires med kit ASAP.
and you genuinely think that the NHS ambulance service or St John are going to give equipment to a competitor ...

also a lot of the defibs etc that are currently being disposed of by the NHS and SJA are machines that while they work perfectly adequately are fixed programmes to the Old resus guidelines and have been depreciated down to zero - so would otherwise be smashed and go in the WEEE skip.

there's also stuff that could be resterilised etc but due to developed world medical devices legislation it;s just easier to cast and replace with single use ( e.g. autoclavable BVMs and suction system components )
 
#16
I have a friend with two kids volunteering in different parts of Africa. I'll try to get details of the organisations involved and PM you.
 
#17
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My brother in law works for Dorset County Ambulance service, he's also in the St John and tells me that he holds the rank of a Lt Col and that I should salute him ... civvy twit ... but I digress. They have a large stock of medical supplies i.e. Defibrillators and the such that they would like to donate, perhaps somewhere such as Kenya. Does anyone have a contact that he could speak to about this?

Many thanks
What a great idea - send electromed kit to Kenya that we (the Brits) no longer want or use........... they then use it (assuming they have power), someone dies from an electric shock, then they sue us.............. even better, someone suggests that a Medical Regiment join in with this nonsense...........can anyone imagine the look on the CO's face when he gets that call??

Sorry to appear negative but the whole thing made me wince......
 
#19
Talk to the Red Cross, they're the same sort of outfit and work overseas.



(ha ha ha, SJA and RC talk to each other, ha ha ha)
Retires and awaits incoming - let's see how long this takes!
 
#20
SJA, there is not a biggest bunch of dangerous wannabee snidey back-stabbing dullards I have met

His request speaks volumes; a senior Johnnie not knowing which way to turn and has to ask around to seek results. Whatever the outcome, it'll all be lost in a plethora of bureaucratic bullshit and jelly-back non-decision making anyway.

He might as well break them up as they'll be obsolete and unusable before the Johnnies get around to agreeing who to giving them away to
 

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