Helicopter used in Bin Laden assault

#1
Not sure if this was done already but searched and found nothing.





Ok, so I was looking at this today and thought to myself, since when does a "blackhawk" have 5-6 tail rotor blades with some sort of "stealth" plate on it? The tail is also very very different. Knowing a little bit about helos I understand that the slower the tail and main rotor's the "quieter" it is.

The other half:




Now, I am certain that those that know what it is won't really say but what's the rumor?


And whose got China as the recipient of the tail parts that are intact in the pool?
 
#2
I suppose there's an outside chance that the Pakistanis might play nice and give it back; or be easily enough bribed into returning it.

On the whole, though, I'd guess the Chinese. They'll want a real one to compare to the plans they no doubt already have.
 
#5
Reminds me of a story that our Technical Drawing teacher told us at school (circa 1966). He said that around the time of the First World War, John Brown's shipyard was fed up with the Japanese who were stealing all their best ship designs. So they designed a ship with a big hole under the funnel. Sure enough, the plan was copied and when the ship was launched in Japan, it immediately sank. I don't suppose any teacher would stay in his job for long if he told stories like that now.
 
#6
Reminds me of a story that our Technical Drawing teacher told us at school (circa 1966). He said that around the time of the First World War, John Brown's shipyard was fed up with the Japanese who were stealing all their best ship designs. So they designed a ship with a big hole under the funnel. Sure enough, the plan was copied and when the ship was launched in Japan, it immediately sank. I don't suppose any teacher would stay in his job for long if he told stories like that now.
The Japanese were an ally in WWI and John Brown's built quite a few ships for the japs
 
#11
The Japanese were an ally in WWI and John Brown's built quite a few ships for the japs
It's even worse than that a number of British arms companies had massive investments in the Japanese arms industry even during WW2. There were even rumours that Jiro Horikoshi got his Ideas for the design of the Mitsubishi A6M Zero from a cancelled Gloster aircraft, read "The Arms Bazaar" by Anthony Sampson some "British " Bankers, Financiers and Lords of Industry, should have been hung for treason
 
#13
The tungsten much favoured by Krupp for use when fighring the Royal Navy came from a small mine in Cumberland.
Best in the world apparently, the Germans even had a big shareholding in the mine to ensure their supply

Nothing new in commercial interest taking precedence over the national interest
 
#14
It's even worse than that a number of British arms companies had massive investments in the Japanese arms industry even during WW2. There were even rumours that Jiro Horikoshi got his Ideas for the design of the Mitsubishi A6M Zero from a cancelled Gloster aircraft, read "The Arms Bazaar" by Anthony Sampson some "British " Bankers, Financiers and Lords of Industry, should have been hung for treason
That would be why Emperor Hirohito was a British Field Marshall throughout WW2 and continued to draw the pension until his death in 1989, just as the SDR was reviewing the number of Field Marshalls on the books, for an army which doesn't now qualify for one.
 

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#16
1. I would doubt that honorary British rank conferred on foreign royals actually includes pay.

2. Howard Hughes, engineer and entrepreneur most famous for Jane Russell's bra, claimed that the Zero was developed from the his H1.
 
#17
It's the tail rotor assembly for a UH-60 Blackhawk.
Which curiously looks nothing like the tail section for a UH-60 - the tail-rotor is on the wrong side of the assembly for a start...

That doesn't mean that it isn't part of a UH-60, but it's impossible to tell simply by looking at it.
 
#18
Which curiously looks nothing like the tail section for a UH-60 - the tail-rotor is on the wrong side of the assembly for a start...

That doesn't mean that it isn't part of a UH-60, but it's impossible to tell simply by looking at it.
You are correct that it doesn't look like a standard UH-60 tail assembly. According to the news ( emphasis on weasel word "according", but apparently Aviation Weekly is more or less in agreement) this is a stealth modification for the HH-60/MH-60 PAve Hawk, a derivative of the standard UH-60.

Reports: Secret Stealth Black Hawk Helicopters Used In Bin Laden Raid : The Two-Way : NPR

Stealth Helos Used In Osama Raid
 
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