hearing loss

#1
im currently serving in a cavalry regiment but after a 6month tour of afghanistan i have hearing loss im h1 in my right ear but h3 in my left i now cant work on the tanks and am permantley downgraded im graded as p3 LD is there such thing as signing a waiver so i can continue to serve and deploy as i fighting soldier to afghanistan cant see myself being in a frontline regiment and not being able to fight any feed back will be greatley apreciated.
 
#2
i doubt it! i take you didnt wear the extremly comfy ear defenders that your were issued? unless you can blag another hearing test with a " friendly" medic your fooked. Looks like the SQMS for you then, or even worse tech!

Have they sent you for and MRI scan or just did this at the med centre? If you go for an MRI they give you a more intense ear test and they might over rule the med centre one. Its worth a shot then atleast you can claim loads of cash and cop a deaf un when the long haired general asks you to cut the grass!

I had the same when i got back, but i put it down to self abuse,
 
#3
Jay,

I suggest that you seek out some properly qualified advice on this one. Sniper9's post above is at best meaningless and at worst misleading.

There are a number of things that might be able to help, including things as simple as having excess ear wax syringed out of your ears. Clearly this depends on the problem you are actually suffering. My advice would be to make an appointment with your RMO (doctor) so that you can be properly diagnosed and go from there.
 
#4
Id follow the above post by B-C, you QRL by any chance?
 

AlienFTM

MIA
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#6
Bear in mind what I am about to say is nearly 30 years old.

After seven years in recce, I transferred out. At my next unit I was volunteered to undergo a hearing test which revealed I was 85% deaf in my right ear. Two and a half years later, the same test team came around again and my hearing was 100%. Make of it what you will. I concluded that my hearing loss had come about because throughout my time on CVR(T) I had had whistling in my right ear due to movement of air over the live boom mike. Two years without and the problem went away.

You haven't told us whether you have been declared unfit to serve in any role within your regiment. If I were you, I'd demonstrate to the regiment that you really really want to continue to be a part of the family (lay it on thick) whatever it takes. Ask to be reroled as a shiny-arrsed clerk (oh hang on: are all clerks now badged AGS now?) or MT driver(?) and hang about for a year and keep pestering for your hearing to be reviewed.

If you ever leave your regiment, it is going to be very difficult to get back in, especially as defence cuts are announced and youngsters continue to push to join. If you have to leave your regiment, you have my sympathy. However, let me assure you that becoming a shiny-arrsed clerk is not the end of the world: you can retrain to do something more useful in the outside world. (In the late-70s - early-80s BFBS Radio used to carry an ad for Army Education with the tag line, "Know anyone in Civvy Street needs an anti-tank gunner?")

You will always have your memories, and in 30 years' time you'll be a lot better off financially than your current peers (if not with your peers 30 years down the line).
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
Can't comment on your current problem but way down the line you may wish you had kept copies of every bit of documentation about this. The reason is that noise-induced deafness may cut in long after you have left the Services but well before the deafness attributable to old age, and you may want to put in a claim at that point. The key feature is that high frequency hearing goes before low frequency. It is not curable, although hearing aids may ameliorate the problem; what happens is that noise shock makes the cilia brittle - these are the little hair-like structures in the inner ear which vibrate to received sound and so generate the electrical signals with which your brain 'hears'. Eventually the cilia beak off and so their actual function isn't there any more and you can't grow new ones.
 
#8
BC your utter prick, if you had read the post you would have seen he has already been to the med centre. what do you think, he got up one morning and found that he couldnt hear anything in the lower frequency range and declared himself P3? As for misleading what does yours say, err go and see and doctor, my god you must be fantastic at stating the obvious. If it was a build of ear wax, the specialst at the ENT should be able to determeine if thats or something else, if not then most likely an MRI will follow to make sure that it is the ear drum and nothing more sinsister.

as AFTM has stated it may just be a short term problem and it may go away, and as for roles within his unit, they wont just kick him and will find him a part to play, even if it is in the G4 chain. As suggested get copies of everything, the army has a funny way of losing paper work when compo is involved

scarletto, band wagon jumper
 
#9
i doubt it! i take you didnt wear the extremly comfy ear defenders that your were issued? unless you can blag another hearing test with a " friendly" medic your fooked. Looks like the SQMS for you then, or even worse tech!

Have they sent you for and MRI scan or just did this at the med centre? If you go for an MRI they give you a more intense ear test and they might over rule the med centre one. Its worth a shot then atleast you can claim loads of cash and cop a deaf un when the long haired general asks you to cut the grass!

I had the same when i got back, but i put it down to self abuse,
Not a band wagon jumper, but with advice like ]unless you can blag another hearing test with a " friendly" medic your fooked, shows your a knob
 
#10
what and you never had friends in the buts! the bloke wants to crack on in the front line, and not be forced to give that up. wouldnt try and buck the system to have another shot, or would you lie back and take it? on second thoughts you would no doubt do the latter.
 
#11
what and you never had friends in the buts! the bloke wants to crack on in the front line, and not be forced to give that up. wouldnt try and buck the system to have another shot, or would you lie back and take it? on second thoughts you would no doubt do the latter.
As we dont know WHO has said to him about his hearing loss, it may be if he decided to get a 'dodgy' result, he ends up in trouble.Which whilst i understand his reasoning and why he asked on here, as none of us have the full story, dont you think it may be a tad dangerous offering advice over the internet to him ?????

We arent talking about loosing something, its a medical matter.

As to what i would or wouldnt do, well crack on, but i didnt ask the question did i.
 
#13
BC your utter prick, if you

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thats or something else, if not then most likely an MRI will follow to make sure that it is the ear drum and nothing more sinsister.
OK I'll bite.

You clearly don't know what an MRI machine is used for. It would be very unusual to use one in the initial diagnosis of hearing loss (any doctors out there feel free to correct me).

Having previously read some of your ill informed, poorly spelled and at times trolling drivel on other threads, it is quite obvious that you have nothing positive to add.

Also there should be an "an" in your first sentence and you might want to note that "your" means belongs to you. "You are" is shortened to "you're".

Idiot!

Handbag put away now...
 
#14
SHOULDN'T THIS THREAD BE IN CAPS LOCK? - I'll get my coat.....


Sid Where you been??? Somewhere hot or hilly this time.
 
#15
scarletto
SHOULDN'T THIS THREAD BE IN CAPS LOCK? - I'll get my coat.....


Sid Where you been??? Somewhere hot or hilly this time. .20-10-2010 20:01brave-coward


Biff not me mate.. think your going senile ! Been to LA and Florida....
 
#16
scarletto
SHOULDN'T THIS THREAD BE IN CAPS LOCK? - I'll get my coat.....


Sid Where you been??? Somewhere hot or hilly this time. .20-10-2010 20:01brave-coward


Biff not me mate.. think your going senile ! Been to LA and Florida....
Uhum Sid old boy, thats what i meant, holidays not bluudy Afghan, last time you went off somewhere hot, which you have done again, unless it was snowing in Florida. Btw you going Telford?
 
#17
I can add some light on this as one of my lads is currently experiencing a similar issue due to an IED strike on TELIC 11. He's been diagnosed P7 and told he must wear hearing aids for the rest of his life.

He's had an occupational health assessment and he has been told he's no longer fit to serve in his current trade within Gods Own Corps (Hurrah for the CRE...). He will soon sit interviews with the Adj, RCMO and CO where his options will be outlined to him (future career prospects, promotion, re-badge to another Corps etc) and he will be asked what he wants to do. The CO will then make a recommendation based upon a number of factors and he will either be retained in a trade/role/Corps more suitable to his disability or released from the Army to persue a career in civvy St. I believe he will also be allowed sufficient time to attend resettlement courses etc before he's discharged.

The only area I'm not sure of right now is his right to disability pension if he elects to leave the Army rather than continue in a different job. I've been told he's eligable in the same way as if he'd been MD'd, but I think that's bollocks TBH.

As for the compo side of it, contact the SPVO for details, JSP 765 refers. Unless your hearing loss is due to a specific incident (such as my guys case - 2007 issued ear defence doesn't do much against an IED!) you probably won't have a leg to stand on as there was probably PPE issued which could have avoided it.

Don't worry about medical docs being "misplaced" by your Med Centre, I have been reliably informed that a copy of all medical records is retained at your records office in Glasgow as a fail-safe to ensure this doesn't happen. This has been in place since all Med records were computerised, around 1998 I think. The AFCS will chase those down to support your claim once you get the ball rolling with them.
 
#18
POM Hero_
The MoD has combat immunity. This means your lad will only receive compo from the AFCS, probably level 9. The same could apply for the original OP regardless of circumstances.
 
#19
Thanks Dingerr, I found that on the SPVO website so I've been briefing him as I've been finding info myself. He's all over the place right now as he doesn't really know what's going to happen to him, fingers crossed he may be able to get a bit of dosh to make his transition into Civvy St a bit easier.
 
#20
I don't understand why he would need to leave the Army if he is P7. Its not always an automatic case for discharge.

Nor do I understand why he can't continue in his current trade once he has the hearing aids. Is it not a similar situation to someone who has to wear glasses?

He can ask for a second opinion with the occupational health.
 

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