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Unclogging Toilets at $400,000 a Flush Hits Navy’s Costs
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Anthony Capaccio

24 March 2020, 15:08 GMT Updated on 24 March 2020, 16:59 GMT

  • GAO says Navy underestimated maintenance costs by $130 billion
  • Those costs add to questions on expanding 293-ship Navy to 355

USS Gerald R. Ford

USS Gerald R. Ford Photographer: Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Ridge Leoni/U.S. Navy via Getty Images

New toilets on the Navy’s two newest aircraft carriers clog so frequently that the ships’ sewage systems must be cleaned periodically with specialized acids costing about $400,000 a flush, according to a new congressional audit outlining $130 billion in underestimated long-term maintenance costs.

The Navy isn’t sure the toilet systems on the USS Gerald R. Ford and the USS George H. W. Bush can withstand the demand without failing frequently, according to the watchdog agency’s report on service sustainment costs released Tuesday.

The new toilet, similar to what’s used on commercial aircraft, is experiencing “unexpected and frequent clogging of the system” so the “unplanned maintenance action” will be needed “for the entire service life of the ship,” the GAO said in the report requested by the Senate Armed Services Committee

Although the costly toilets are illustrative of the problem, “we generally did not include these types of ongoing costs in our calculation” of the Navy’s looming sustainment bill, according to the report

The report comes amid a debate in Congress, the Pentagon and the White House over expanding the current 293-ship Navy to 355 by the mid-2030, a Trump administration goal.

Navy cost estimators stated that as much as $26 billion of the $130 billion estimated increase in costs “could be accounted for by process changes that resulted in including more indirect costs, such as health and child care for sailors.”

Overall, the Ford’s estimated lifetime operations and sustainment costs have grown to $123 billion from $77.3 billion, the most of six programs GAO evaluated.

“The Carrier toilet system is indicative of the kinds of issues we highlight in our report that are requiring more money, time, and effort to fix than originally anticipated due to a lack of adequate sustainment planning during the acquisition process,” said Shelby Oakley, a GAO director who manages the agency’s ship acquisition reviews

“The pipes are too narrow and when there are a bunch of sailors flushing the toilet at the same time, like in the morning, the suction doesn’t work,” said Oakley. “The Navy didn’t anticipate this problem.”
 
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I bet the Indian navy doesn't have a problem with clogged toilets, they just defecate on the poop deck
 

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I think @Ravers might have mentioned this as a problem with Jolly Jack’s boats as well a little while ago.
Yep, type 42s were notorious for having fucked kazhies. The STP (sewage treatment plant) was very fragile and would do its own thing if anything that wasn’t shit went down the heads.

So chucking quickstrip and bleach down the cunt was less than ideal.

Blow backs were common, where you flush the loo and it explodes. The deck was nearly always about 3 or 4 inches deep in “effluent” with nuggets of poo floating in it.

An experience to be savoured, especially when you’re wearing flip flops.

Every 42 I went on smelt of rotting eggs, BO, diesel and chip fat.

I’ll never forget that smell.
 
Yep, type 42s were notorious for having fucked kazhies. The STP (sewage treatment plant) was very fragile and would do its own thing if anything that wasn’t shit went down the heads.

So chucking quickstrip and bleach down the **** was less than ideal.

Blow backs were common, where you flush the loo and it explodes. The deck was nearly always about 3 or 4 inches deep in “effluent” with nuggets of poo floating in it.

An experience to be savoured, especially when you’re wearing flip flops.

Every 42 I went on smelt of rotting eggs, BO, diesel and chip fat.

I’ll never forget that smell.
Smells like an AFV and smells like victory!
 

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Yep, type 42s were notorious for having fucked kazhies. The STP (sewage treatment plant) was very fragile and would do its own thing if anything that wasn’t shit went down the heads.

So chucking quickstrip and bleach down the **** was less than ideal.

Blow backs were common, where you flush the loo and it explodes. The deck was nearly always about 3 or 4 inches deep in “effluent” with nuggets of poo floating in it.

An experience to be savoured, especially when you’re wearing flip flops.

Every 42 I went on smelt of rotting eggs, BO, diesel and chip fat.

I’ll never forget that smell.
I think after several weeks of being confined to quarters a lot of homes will take on a similar hum! :)
 
I think after several weeks of being confined to quarters a lot of homes will take on a similar hum! :)
That’s Auld-Yin not opening a window until summer’s here, then. A window between rain storms in July. Maybe.
You keep the draughts out, Auld-Yin!
 
I think after several weeks of being confined to quarters a lot of homes will take on a similar hum! :)
Up your way have the tenements still not got bathrooms and the public baths have shut down?
 

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That’s Auld-Yin not opening a window until summer’s here, then. A window between rain storms in July. Maybe.
You keep the draughts out, Auld-Yin!
Have to look after the joint pain! There will be a few coming out of this resembling cavemen with straggly hair and prison pallor!
 

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Up your way have the tenements still not got bathrooms and the public baths have shut down?
Always go last in the bath - don't trust this fresh water lark! ;)
 
Have to look after the joint pain! There will be a few coming out of this resembling cavemen with straggly hair and prison pallor!
Isn’t straggly hair and being peelie-wallie the default in Scotland? :)
 
Blow backs were common, where you flush the loo and it explodes. The deck was nearly always about 3 or 4 inches deep in “effluent” with nuggets of poo floating in it.
I thought that that was a speciality of the DE boats, along with the smell of diesel, BO etc.
 

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Yep, type 42s were notorious for having fucked kazhies. The STP (sewage treatment plant) was very fragile and would do its own thing if anything that wasn’t shit went down the heads.

So chucking quickstrip and bleach down the **** was less than ideal.

Blow backs were common, where you flush the loo and it explodes. The deck was nearly always about 3 or 4 inches deep in “effluent” with nuggets of poo floating in it.

An experience to be savoured, especially when you’re wearing flip flops.

Every 42 I went on smelt of rotting eggs, BO, diesel and chip fat.

I’ll never forget that smell.
As this sort of 'feature' appears to have continued with approval, are we to assume that some very strange fetishes are leading the sewage-design processes????
 

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