Head-Dress & Embellishments

Discussion in 'ACF' started by Mike_2817, Apr 1, 2006.

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  1. What are the rules for ex-regular's wearing their old regiment/corps beret & badge when an A.I. in charge of Cadets?

    I have just seen 3 differant berets badges on one mini-bus!

    On the same vain, what regular army qualifications or embellishments can an A.I. wear?
     
  2. i would say it is a local issue, it up to the local county Commandant, in practice i haven't heard any major problems as long as it is earned.

    by the same token some ex regulars and TA bods don't bother wearing it as in their view "Its not the Army just a youth organisation" again its up to the individuals in question , myself personally i would have no objections whatsoever if they choose to wear it.
     
  3. Well we wear the Sherwood foresters regiment badge at school (CCF) but the CO wears the tankies badge.
     
  4. Not bothered either way! Just interested to see how many in fact do it, and if entitlement is checked. One was a Maroon Beret with RE Badge for example, even in the regular army you can only wear when posted within 16 AA Brigade (or 5 AB before that)
     
  5. Does that include training? Ive seen training screws in the engineers wearing them.


    Ive seen RGBW detachments with IG Adult Instructors.
     
  6. As far as JSP 336 goes (Dress Regs) Trainers within ATRA shouldn't be wearing them! I have heard of other training units wearing them as well!

    http://www.ams.mod.uk\ams\content\docs\jsp336\3rd_ed\vol12\pt3\pam15\s5.doc


    Interesting point highlighted? How does "Qualified personnel of supporting arms and services serving on the establishment of 16 Air Asslt Bde" become everybody in 16 Air Asslt Bde?
     
  7. Walting, ignorance, somebody not doing his job?

    P
     
  8. Technically no CFAV should wear the cap badge/ head dress of their previous regiment, and understandably a lot of ex-regs resent this, but if they are as professional as they are trying to make out by wearing their ex-regimental head dress then can they really complain about wearing the head dress/ capbadge of a regiment they are merely affiliated to twice weekly?

    Wings, daggers and diving helmets have been a bone of contention in our county ACF for a long time now and the official line from Bde now is no one can wear them unless they are current in that qualification. Implementing that rule however is a mighty challenge for our RSM.

    Moving onto brigade flashes nowadays the rule seems to have changed from; no one can wear them, to only officers can wear them, to no one can wear them, to no one knows if they can wear them! Can anyone shed any light on this subject? Would be interesting what woopert says about this as he is within my brigade, or so it would seem from his avatar!
     
  9. In the Regular Army these badges may be worn in perpetuity once they are earned! Staying current in the qualification only effects specialist pay!

    So how can the 'powers that be' go against that? As long as it is in the Soldiers Red Discharge Book that he completed the relivent course!

    http://www.ams.mod.uk/ams/content/docs/jsp336/3rd_ed/vol12/pt3/pam15/s3.doc

    JSP 336 Vol 12 makes interesting reading!
     
  10. No member of the ACF(regardless of rank) is permitted to wear any regular or territorial formation badges. This extends to Tactical Recognition Flashes (TRFs) worn by regular or territorial units. This was recently clarified in a letter from land at the same time as the union flag "can they, can;t they" debate !
     
  11. A Flt Lt on my wing confuses every one ,lightt blue uniform,AAC Observers wings,Para wings and Commando badge his usual reply is "Yes I did earn them and yes I am allowed to wear them" as he is of rather large build now he gets some very strange looks.
     
  12. AS FAR AS I LAST SAW ADULTS WITHIN LINCOLNSHIRE ACF WHO ARE CAP BADGED GRENADIER GUARDS WEAR THE GUARDS FLASH TOP RIGHT SHOULDER. THE GUARDS THEMSELVES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS IT BRINGS THE CADETS AND THEIR AFFILIATED REGIMENTS CLOSER TOGETHER, ALSO AS A QUALIFIED SNIPER INSTRUCTOR WHO ALSO EARNED HIS JUMP WINGS AT ALDERSHOT, IF A COUNTY COMMANDANT WITH SAY ONE MEDAL DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO WEAR YOUR BADGES, IS THIS JEALOUSY OR **** RETENTION ON HIS PART?
     
  13. Mate, can you turn your Caps Lock off please?
     
  14. Or is it just you thinking you are something now you are just ACF?
     
  15. Currently in my county we have a mish mash of people wearing berets they were issued in their regular service, The RSM is ex AAC but wears RA beret and badge, a couple of guys are ex Para and wear the maroon, I don't particularly think that that is a problem especially when we have a few serving Para's help us out on camp's occasionally and they have no problem with it, where I would suggest the line is drawn is at the people who did 12 months as a clerk in the AGC or what ever insisting that they are entitled to wear their previous Corps beret.

    I think what I am getting at is spec quals (where the beret has been earned, Para or Commando) fine, A N other regiment just to be different wrong, get with the groove fellas how can we instill a bit of pride into the cadets for their affiliated regiment if we aren't prepared to wear their beret.

    Zippy483