have i read this wrong?

#1
ok i admit i could be paranoid and reading too much into it but the following quote is taken from MOD Oracle and annoyed the hell out of me.

Due to a reduced threat level and improvements in the peace talks between the two sides, weapons are usually no longer needed and a decision was taken that a Territorial Army unit could undertake the tour which has always been fulfilled by the Regular Army.

as "weapons are usually no longer needed" the TA can be used for the job? we have fcuking weapons on telic and herrick where there was a very real threat ffs :x

i found most of the comments regarding TA in this article to be condescending and patronising in the extreme.

http://www.modoracle.com/news/The-TAs-First-Ever-UN-Mission_17309.html?category=all
 
#2
Im not sure about condescending and patronising but the author does seem to have conflated the current threat level with the TA angle to make it sound like the TA are only allowed to go because it's not too dangerous.
 
#3
Lieutenant Colonel Huw Jenkins, Commanding Officer of 32 Signals Regiment Group, one of the very few regular Army officers on the tour, said:

So no TA Lt Col good enough?
 
#5
msr said:
Lieutenant Colonel Huw Jenkins, Commanding Officer of 32 Signals Regiment Group, one of the very few regular Army officers on the tour, said:

So no TA Lt Col good enough?
As you already know, the post is occupied by TA/reg alternately. He just happens to be the boss at the moment.
 
#9
So will the next regular unit be plastic policemen as well? Tosca is Tosca no matter who does it.
 
#10
brucewillis said:
So will the next regular unit be plastic policemen as well? Tosca is Tosca no matter who does it.
i think your missing the point.i am not interested in yet another TA/Reg slanging match. i am critical of the article not our guys on Op Tosca. i have several friends there at the moment but i think this article does portray us in the wrong light.

the article highlights a decision that TA were given the job because it was deemed as safe and weapons were no longer required.If this is the case it belittles all the work we have done in iraq and afghanistan since 2002
 
#11
Only if you take that attitude, I do not see it as a negative piece of reporting, one line seems a bit off

Due to a reduced threat level and improvements in the peace talks between the two sides, weapons are usually no longer needed and a decision was taken that a Territorial Army unit could undertake the tour which has always been fulfilled by the Regular Army.
which could well have been the journalist writing the piece as it does not seem to be a quote.

So see it as an article showing how the TA can be used as whole sub-units in a flexible fashion in a role that is not normally associated with them.
 
#12
06FA56Paderborn said:
So see it as an article showing how the TA can be used as whole sub-units in a flexible fashion in a role that is not normally associated with them.
Hold on: we've been configured exclusively like that from 1908-2003 and since 2003 have sent a number of formed sub-units on TELIC and HERRICK.

msr
 
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#13
And continue to do so......

It sounds like the journalist writing the article is out of step with the "party line" and with recent history...no change there then :)
 
#14
Fair enough just shows how I misinterpreted the MOD headline to the article

Currently patrolling the 'Green Line' in Cyprus, 32 Signals Regiment Group has become the first ever Territorial Army (TA) formed unit to undertake a United Nations (UN) peacekeeping mission.
I therefore make the assumption (a dangerous habit I know making assumptions) that the unit is the first carrying out a UN peacekeeping mission, made up from all different cap badges.

Certainly not meant as criticism by the way.
 
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swampmonster

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#16
06FA56Paderborn said:
Fair enough just shows how I misinterpreted the MOD headline to the article

Currently patrolling the 'Green Line' in Cyprus, 32 Signals Regiment Group has become the first ever Territorial Army (TA) formed unit to undertake a United Nations (UN) peacekeeping mission.
I therefore make the assumption (a dangerous habit I know making assumptions) that the unit is the first carrying out a UN peacekeeping mission, made up from all different cap badges.

Certainly not meant as criticism by the way.
Thought the Loggies had a unit there last year one of the lads from my workplace is Scottish Transport Regt and he went..before 32 Sigs...
Think the point was its a firstUN tour rather than ISAF...etc etc
Were there not any formed units in Bosnia with the UN? I know we sent about a platoons worth of Jocks?

:roll:




then again i could be wrong :D
 
#17
06FA56Paderborn said:
Only if you take that attitude, I do not see it as a negative piece of reporting, one line seems a bit off ....which could well have been the journalist writing the piece as it does not seem to be a quote.

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We need to remember that the MOD Oracle is written by people who have NO idea about the military and appears aimed at an audience who know almost as little. Quite who the target audience is, I do not know, its certainly not serving soldiers.
 
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#18
Trossachs said:
06FA56Paderborn said:
Only if you take that attitude, I do not see it as a negative piece of reporting, one line seems a bit off ....which could well have been the journalist writing the piece as it does not seem to be a quote.

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We need to remember that the MOD Oracle is written by people who have NO idea about the military and appears aimed at an audience who know almost as little. Quite who the target audience is, I do not know, its certainly not serving soldiers.


True 8O
 
#19
ubuntu said:
spaz said:
I think it's quite sweet, you come across as a kind of PCSO type of organisation. :wink:
Well, you wouldn't let the little rascals loose with anything more dangerous than blunt sticks, would you?
You've worked with 32 SR before then ?

:D
 
#20
Trossachs said:
06FA56Paderborn said:
Only if you take that attitude, I do not see it as a negative piece of reporting, one line seems a bit off ....which could well have been the journalist writing the piece as it does not seem to be a quote.

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We need to remember that the MOD Oracle is written by people who have NO idea about the military and appears aimed at an audience who know almost as little. Quite who the target audience is, I do not know, its certainly not serving soldiers.
Modoracle do not write anything as I understand it - they just aggregate content. This report was a press release from the MOD.


msr
 

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