Has war changed you?

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#3
Do an article on paramedics and stop bleating.


All the best ten
 
#4
Yeah, **** you. Or Lily Cole.

I nearly did, but that's another story...
Oh, oops. I didn't actually read your post, just this part:

Sorry if this is a really gay question.

There was a really a good thread earlier on 'what did you bring back from war', and some of the best answers weren't about objects.

Didn't get to the part about you having personal troubles, sorry!
 
#5
Sorry if this is a really gay question.

There was a really a good thread earlier on 'what did you bring back from war', and some of the best answers weren't about objects.

Without trying to sound like the ******* Deer Hunter, or boohooing to random internet strangers, I've found normal life sort of... like it's been picked up and repositioned in a different, confusing direction, if that makes sense. Like shit that used to matter means nothing, and you find yourself feeling really emotional about random pointless things.

So the question really is... has war skewed normality for you? And does everything seem really boring/pointless afterwards, and will it always?
Not NAAFI, serious (ish) answer with wah shield and journo alert on.

I think that science indicates that some biochemical changes to the brain's chemistry do occur as a result of the prolonged stress on ops.

http://natorto.cbw.pl/uploads/2010/7/MP-042-$$ALL.pdf


I am not sure if this has had a perceptable effect on me but I think that it may have made my analysis of business problems clearer than colleagues.However, I do tend to default to worst case scenario a lot quicker than most people in my profession when analysisng probable outcomes of a project.

In addition, it does take quite a bit of time to readjust when you return from a tour.

When I got back from Afghanistan, service as a civilian but fairly dangerous, and the only tour where I seriously envisaged death,kidnap or serious injury it did take me a year or two before I was back in the swing of things.

I remember being very jumpy,(nearly jumping under a table in a pub because of an unanticipated firework display on Sydney Harbour) and catching myself having a few wierd thought processes in a little NSW town i.e "that car looks a bit low on it's axles, wonder if it contains explosives?".

I also felt that I had brought the sadness of the place back with me like a flu' or a cold that I could not get rid of.. Sounds wierd but that's how I felt.

I also hit the booze heavily for a couple of years and still drink more than I probably should.

My tolerance for idiots is also lower than it used to be, but I'm not sure if this is a product of aging or a result of my experiences.

Have a look at the attached documents, see what you think, the first is from the Aussie DVA, (the second is from a mob called "Young Diggers" and I am not able to vouch fortheir bona fides) which should reassure you that you are not alone in feeling as you do and that you are fairly "normal":

At Ease Mental Health - Mental Health and Wellbeing

The fight or flight response: Our body's response to stress - Young Diggers

In addition, give yourself a bit of time but don't, ffs indulge in too many high risk escapades to try and get your adrenalin fix.

Good luck!
 
#6
Has it changed me. Yes and No! As a person no as in my personality wise, no. However it certainly has changed my perspective of life, and made me appreciate things in life better.
 
#7
Bushmills,

Thanks for those. Yes, I'm a journo, but this isn't a trap. If anything- tell me i'm wrong- I think it might be worse for journos. We don't have homecoming parades, we don't have a system to to reacclimatise ourselves into, and we aren't considered heroes (my fiancee dumped me on my first day back from a month in the height of the Misrata siege, because i hadn't answered her Facebook messages ... I assure you the Sun would never let that happen if I'd been processing post in KAF).

I don't know, it's very strange. I keep almost starting fights on public transport- which is i know is objectively bad- and once i heard fireworks going off which sounded EXACTLY like 82mm mortars so i stood out on my doorstep till 3am sort of hoping, even though I knew it couldn't happen in Shooters Hill. i don't know. The odd thing is, army training tells you either to assault the posn (which without 30, or 8, bods I wouldn't know how to do) or take cover, but our job is to run towards it and hope for the best. And trust your AK-wielding driver.
My situation was similar as I was employed as an INGO manager in Afghanistan and as such, was living very much off my own wits.

In addition, you do feel very isolated when you get back.

If you are London based, try to get along to the Frontline club as there are some good lads who drink there.

I often wonder if it would be a good idea to set up some kind of a mutual support society for returned journo's, UN, INGO, ICRC, Official Aid Agency, Civil contractors etc with a similar sort of purpose as the RBL or the RSL.

I know what you mean about the fight thing and the fireworks. All I can suggest, is that knowledge and self awareness is power. I do have a tendancy to do my block at airports but have never got into a physical fight in this context.I think that it may be that you experience the same biochemical relaese that you would in a fight but the other party may perceive it as a faily minor altercation.

We certainly have our own issues and we don't have the collective support that comes with military service.

PS Sympathise about the fiance, similar thing happened to me with the first wife when in Aceh, then with girl friend when in Afghan, then fiance in Zimbabwe, then girlfriend the Sols, etc; bloody women.
 
#8
Serious head on here,

If you are experiencing what you described, then surely there are avenues of help through your employer, without inviting mindless Journo slagging posts on ARRSE.

I only say that because if you are gen, then I can only imagine the usual bollocks that will follow.
 
#9
Serious head on here,

If you are experiencing what you described, then surely there are avenues of help through your employer, without inviting mindless Journo slagging posts on ARRSE.

I only say that because if you are gen, then I can only imagine the usual bollocks that will follow.
There are journo's and journo's.

The ones who cover war zones are mostly,from personal experience, good blokes who can generally be relied upon to do the right thing. You tend to find that westerners in war zones tend to band together for mutual support regardless of profession.

They are not like the domestic gutter press at home.
 
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There are journo's and journo's.

The ones who cover war zones are mostly,from personal experience, good blokes who can generally be relied upon to do the right thing. You tend to find that westerners in war zones tend to band together for mutual support regardless of profession.

They are not like the domestic gutter press at home.
mmmm.... not sure about that, either way, as you mentioned earlier, talking with someone with similiar experiences can only be a good thing. Best of luck( seriously).
 
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#18
I'm assuming that with 3000 posts old mate is legit'.

I am not saying he isn't. However (and I am not saying this is the case in this case), you are obviously very naive to think a journo can't be after some stories to publish just because he has 3000 posts. Did you not see how they were when they hacked into that murdered girls answer phone messages? They didn't care that they could be interfering with the case and bringing false hope to her family...they just made more space for messages so they could get a story. As I said, not saying this is the case here.
 
#19
Can you see your GP in the first instance?
No. I'm thinking about rejoining (RAF Media Ops), and I think this is shit UKPLC doesn't need to know...
 

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