Harry Potter actor stabbed to death protecting his younger b

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  1. Probably everybody's seen this but nevertheless, along with Jimmy Mizen it looks like the savages are starting to claim good people instead of just their own... :cry:

    Web Page Namewww.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2022742/Harry-Potter-actor-stabbed-to-death-protecting-his-younger-brother.html
     
  2. The only way to stop this kind of thing is to A)Build more prisons and B)Introduce a MINIMUM sentance of 10 years for anyone caught carrying a knife. This should rise to 20 years for actually stabbing someone and life without possibility of release for anyone convicted of murder.

    The infamous Glasgow Razor Gangs were effectively broken when the judges started handing out 10 -15 year sentances for carrying the fcuking things. Of course, this was in the days before automatic early release, and when the prisons were very unpleasant places to be...
     
  3. just looked that up; was in the '30s. Well, looks like they had a completely different way of responding to things say, to this bullshit:

    Web Page Namenews.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7418134.stm
     
  4. Agree but make do with present prison even it means standing room; they don't like it, don't do crap to get in there.
    You're carrying a knife and can't prove that it is needed for your job or task, you should be done for YEARS; people seemingly receiving sentences shorter than a course of medication. Ludicrous.
     
  5. Seconded. And do away with automatic early release. If you are sentanced to 10 years then with good behaviour you will be out in...10 years. :twisted: If you misbehave, we ADD time on.
     
  6. Thats what used to happen, but unfortunately, according to EU law, that is illegal. The govenor of a prison has no right to increase the length of a sentence.

    Ski.
     
  7. Mind you, I have to ask what the 16 year old brother was doing in a bar in the early hours of the morning. Doesn't excuse the stabbing but he shouldn't have been there. Did the parents know where there 16 year old child was at that time of night?
     
  8. Both Jimmy and Robert played at the rugby club my brother was a member of for many years and both were killed in areas in which we and my sister socialised during our teens. When we were growing up, the area was deemed to be a very safe and desirable suburban region, an ideal place to raise a family, but I'm so very glad I'm not a teenager at this time because it seems that they do really take their lives into their hands every time they go out.

    I honestly cannot believe how low this government has allowed 'society' to sink thanks to their trendy policy decisions reference law & order and education. We are now reaping the whirlwind and I am genuinely concerned about how much further we will descend into the pit before a grip is got of those who think it's acceptable to be anti-social.
     
  9. I was out in clubs when I was 16-18 every friday, the que for certain large nightclub in notts looks like a youth centre, jail bait everywhere, they were even jail bait when I was 18.

    Not saying it's right, just that it's not uncommon these days, kids lie, some parents are ex-hippy types, but it's not out of the ordinary.
     
  10. I used to go to pubs when I was 16 with my big sister and her mates, as long as I behaved then I was ok.
     
  11. Is this because of the fcuking EHRA? I swear, I'd love to wipe my ARRSE on it, then shove the sh1te-stained paper down Blair's throat until he FCUKING CHOKES ON IT!!! :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff:

    Yeah, lets take advice on Law Enforcement from countries like Belgium and Austria, which make JERSEY look like a safe place to raise children... :evil:

    The sooner we institute the Judge System of Instant Justice the better! :twisted:
     
  12. I know what you mean, I used to have a school mate who lived in Lee. Used to go around his house and play computer games then jump on a 202 bus at night to go home, or walk if it was summer, never had any problems or felt threatend.
    I got on the wrong last year and ended up in Lee, feck me it changed! More chavs than you could point a sh1tty stick at.
     
  13. WW,

    bbc news article on eu law preventing govenors from increasing sentences for bad behaviour.

    Ski.
     
  14. Another life wasted.

    The problem is that, due to the perceived disproportionate use of stop and search powers, and the subsequent slating of the police (particularly the met) in the McPherson report, officers are reluctant to use the only power that would help to stem the tide of this latest surge in stabbings, ie stop and search.

    The Met recently ran a stop and search operation using their section 60 powers which allow officers to search anyone in a given area without the normal required grounds, but as usual the left leaning media and "community" groups began bleating about the targeting of certain groups of individuals ie young, predominately black, males.

    Unfortunately the police management dare not say it, but we all know (or at least suspect) it, that it is this group who are disproportionately committing these offences. Why can't the Senior Management just come out and say it.

    The media bleat on about "something should be done" then pounce when the police try and do something that upsets people. This, along with weak management that fear upsetting anyone means that nothing gets done and more lives are wasted. IMHO the police are trying to hard to be everyone's friend, unfortunately to be effective we can't be EVERYONES friend.

    For example my department were told that there was a problem with persons carrying knives in an area of a major town in our force. We offered to carry out an operation, using section 60 powers, to blitz the place with stop searches (with everyone on the department being search trained by the RE already it made sense). But the management poo poo'd it because it needed an "community impact assessment" (I also suspect they're not big fans of my depts style of policing either) so the problem was allowed to continue.

    The police, at the federated rank level at least, on the ground are more than happy to deal with this head on. It's just the management who fear it, when it should be the knife carriers fearing the police, and so more young lives are wasted.