Harry Dunn killed by US diplomat's wife

Having had the pleasure of working on numerous USVF bases, including Croughton, I can say from experience that the biggest danger on any USVF base is an American wife driving a LHD people carrier or truck cab with a couple of brats in the back.

Use of mirrors? Don't do that.
Give way at roundabouts? They don't get that idea at all.
Which way round a roundabout? Could just as easily be straight across as clock or anti-clockwise
Give way at give way signs? No, they've got a bigger truck than you.
Driving on the wrong side of the road? Common.
In fact, could easily be driving down the middle of the road.

It doesn't help that their cars usually have the full drug dealer set of black windows making it near impossible to tell if they are looking at you or have seen you.

I re-iterate, this from experience of driving on USVF bases.
Sounds like mothers in their pupil carriers round here. They know they are more important than silly traffic rules because of their offspring.
 

overopensights

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Whilst I have never been to the USA most Americans I have met in the UK and Europe have been fine.
I spent some time with the 3rd US Marine Div, they were fine but I often found the need to get away somewhere quiet to think my own thoughts.
 
I like these hefty fines! it gets us back some of the interest paid on the extortionate US war loans!
What extortionate war loans.
IIRC lend lease items destroyed or returned were free, those kept paid at 10% of value.
Actual loans were at 2% which rapidly became very generous and Marshall Aid whilst it came with strings was free.
And we needed all of it.
Or have I just been 'wahed'?
 

DAS

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What extortionate war loans.
IIRC lend lease items destroyed or returned were free, those kept paid at 10% of value.
Actual loans were at 2% which rapidly became very generous and Marshall Aid whilst it came with strings was free.
And we needed all of it.
Or have I just been 'wahed'?
There was the issue though of taking the gold reserves at vastly reduced rates.
 
There was the issue though of taking the gold reserves at vastly reduced rates.
There indeed was, I said there were strings attached, but we were in no position to argue, we were broke.
And then of course G Brown copied the whole idea half a century later.
 

Sixty

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Whilst I have never been to the USA most Americans I have met in the UK and Europe have been fine.
Never met an American that I didn't like. People trying to twist this into an anti-US argument are doing themselves no favours. It's about someone taking responsibility for their own actions.
 

overopensights

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What extortionate war loans.
IIRC lend lease items destroyed or returned were free, those kept paid at 10% of value.
Actual loans were at 2% which rapidly became very generous and Marshall Aid whilst it came with strings was free.
And we needed all of it.
Or have I just been 'wahed'?
Read the book 'How we lost world war 2.' I will give one example. The Americans demanded gold in payment for food. In a flap the British Government sent three Destroyers to escort our gold holdings to Canada, This was not only gold bars but Doubloons and pieces of eight etc, with a fantastic antique value. The yanks undercut us on all of it, and paid a basic rate. The food supplied was powdered egg, tinned tomatoes, and a very orange cheese that tasted like plastic. Get the book and then post again please?
 
Never met an American that I didn't like. People trying to twist this into an anti-US argument are doing themselves no favours. It's about someone taking responsibility for their own actions.
I have met one, fat brained, fat arrsed, fat bellied and awesomely arrogant.
Also two 14 yo girls in Italy who couldn't believe that the Italians didn't do Hershe flavoured ice cream.
Mind you he rode a HD so that might be the reason;).
As for your second point, we do not know whether she is able to take responsibility and I'll go with innocent until proved guilty.
 

Zhopa

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two 14 yo girls in Italy who couldn't believe that the Italians didn't do Hershe flavoured ice cream.
I actually really quite liked the US major (a FAO, i.e. someone who is trained and paid by the US Army to understand foreigners) who spent several minutes in silent bewilderment on discovering that a pizzeria in Rome was unable to supply him with a Hawaiian.

We liked him even more later in the evening when after another ponderously thoughtful silence he said to the Brits, very slowly, "I think you're mocking me...... but I don't know how."

[ Edited to add - apologies for thread drift, I thought I was posting in the "America's a bit odd" thread https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/america-its-all-a-bit-odd.267199/ - where many similar themes are covered.]
 
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....just a humble thought...

Why are the Northamptonshire Police funding driver training. Would it not be the US Government (or Air Force) as the responsible employer to fund suitable training and orientation prior to letting employees and their family members loose on the road?

I remember although I had a full licence I had to take and pass a short course before the army let me drive abroad....

(I expect Northamptonshire will say the cost of the training will be less than clearing up the debris but it's an imported problem)
 
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I remember although I had a full licence I had to take and pass a short course before the army let me drive abroad....
The only test I ever had to take while abroad with the Army was the BFG tick test. Other than that I drove military and civilian vehicles abroad without any further testing.
 
The only test I ever had to take while abroad with the Army was the BFG tick test. Other than that I drove military and civilian vehicles abroad without any further testing.
Yep the tick test and we played going through cones and reversing with trailers in a fun competition just to show competency. It may not have been much but it reinforced we were going somewhere different.
 
Yep the tick test and we played going through cones and reversing with trailers in a fun competition just to show competency. It may not have been much but it reinforced we were going somewhere different.
Apart from the tick test I never had to do any of the other stuff, besides I never found reversing with a trailer that difficult.
 

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