Harry Dunn killed by US diplomat's wife

needlewaver

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Well I don't think we would really view each other as "Polite" company old buddy, old pal. But please give me a list of terms that I should avoid using and I will do my best to accommodate your needs. As I am trying very hard to be a model mong. You see we do have different offensive terms over here and I have to keep track of two vocabularies where the meanings can be quite different.
What you or I view each other is irrelevant, this is supposed to be the thinking mans part of the site. And I repeat the fact I don’t need to furnish you with a list, nothing you say triggers me, it’ll just mean your red bar of shame gets polished.
 

LJONESY

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What you or I view each other is irrelevant, this is supposed to be the thinking mans part of the site. And I repeat the fact I don’t need to furnish you with a list, nothing you say triggers me, it’ll just mean your red bar of shame gets polished.
Well then lets think about this. Why would you allow your law enforcement to operate in America and arrest American citizens?
 
That dit was told to me, by one of the Regts "old'n'bold". We still had base's in Nth Africa ie Lybia, SOP was to get back to base without delay and were flown home next day.
A now departed mentor was in Libya from Malta for a while, got into it with a pimp and in the kerfuffle the pimp was stuck with his own knife. He was out of Libya immediately, back to Malta.
 

needlewaver

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Well then lets think about this. Why would you allow your law enforcement to operate in America and arrest American citizens?
Because that’s what you expect the US be able to do over here (albeit with UK police assistance). Why not the opposite? UK police come to the US, local LE lock her up and she’s escorted to the airport in joint custody. Off the plane in UK police custody, and voila, she’s assisting with the investigation.
 

Cutaway

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They might as well move them out to Wyoming and let the punishment commence.
If they set them up in your neighbourhood, give her a hate shag from the Brits and they'll draw a line under this squabbling.
 
Well then lets think about this. Why would you allow your law enforcement to operate in America and arrest American citizens?
We could maybe coin the term 'unlawful criminals' and that would make whatever we choose to do to them ok.
 
So you are telling me that word is considered a swear word in British English??

Do you think you could then give me a list of of offensive terms that might trigger you in the future, because I was under the impression that the P word, was not considered offensive in British English. As it seems to be used quite frequently and I was not under the impression it was vulgar. So you will have to forgive me here, as I am not one of those easily offended Americans who cringe about using profanity. But I do try to moderate myself in the CA.
It's almost as bad as "crevice".
 

LJONESY

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Because that’s what you expect the US be able to do over here (albeit with UK police assistance). Why not the opposite? UK police come to the US, local LE lock her up and she’s escorted to the airport in joint custody. Off the plane in UK police custody, and voila, she’s assisting with the investigation.
Our Law enforcement does not have the power of arrest in the UK and they never will. Your law enforcement are the ones who do that. I don't expect ARMED American Law Enforcement to operate at will in the UK and it would not be allowed over here for many valid reasons. Then what happens when the rest of the world try's to pull this same card on all manner of Americans.... You don't want to open Pandora's box...
 

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A now departed mentor was in Libya from Malta for a while, got into it with a pimp and in the kerfuffle the pimp was stuck with his own knife. He was out of Libya immediately, back to Malta.
Another part of the dit was, if a local was run over, make sure they were brown bread and get out of Dodge. The story goes if the local cops got the driver in court, he'd end up paying and looking after the family for an awful long time.
 

LJONESY

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If they set them up in your neighbourhood, give her a hate shag from the Brits and they'll draw a line under this squabbling.
Oh, she would be real popular.... Many people over here myself included already have a low opinion of her. I would be sure to walk my dogs in her yard daily.
 

needlewaver

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Our Law enforcement does not have the power of arrest in the UK and they never will. Your law enforcement are the ones who do that. I don't expect ARMED American Law Enforcement to operate at will in the UK and it would not be allowed over here for many valid reasons. Then what happens when the rest of the world try's to pull this same card on all manner of Americans.... You don't want to open Pandora's box...
I never mentioned armed officers, nor having powers of arrest. When US LE operate in the UK, they do so with local police who legally arrest and escort the suspect. I expect the same courtesy extended to UK officers or any other third party LE, in the US. Anything else is breathtaking hypocrisy.

And as for your last sentence, what on Bob’s clean earth does that mean? What are you going to do, invade? Drop The Bomb? Or put Novichok on our door handles?
 

LJONESY

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I never mentioned armed officers, nor having powers of arrest. When US LE operate in the UK, they do so with local police who legally arrest and escort the suspect. I expect the same courtesy extended to UK officers or any other third party LE, in the US. Anything else is breathtaking hypocrisy.

And as for your last sentence, what on Bob’s clean earth does that mean? What are you going to do, invade? Drop The Bomb? Or put Novichok on our door handles?
I could only imagine people trying to go after service members or people like "W" who have been labeled war criminals by the rest of the world.

Don't be silly, the United States is not going to that. But the UK can't protect important folks in your country from other foreign nationals who have no moral qualms with doing some very brutish things to people.
 

needlewaver

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I could only imagine people trying to go after service members or people like "W" who have been labeled war criminals by the rest of the world.

Don't be silly, the United States is not going to that. But the UK can't protect important folks in your country from other foreign nationals who have no moral qualms with doing some very brutish things to people.
Nobody’s going after anybody unless they break the law, that’s just paranoia on the And the UK doesn’t have the monopoly on people being killed by other people.

So in summary, the US demands that the world bends to it will legally, and any attempt at reciprocity is rodded right off.

I’m going to bow out now, neither of us is going to convince the other. Suffice to say I wasn’t asking you to denounce your country, just acknowledge it’s amorality on this occasion.
 
Patriotism I can understand, everyone’s proud of their country. When that country makes an amoral decision and interferes with a third party country’s justice system for its own ends, it all seems very Soviet.

If the situation was reversed, I would not be supporting the US’ stance, much as I may love my country.
Shall I tick that as a nice round number? 0
 

LJONESY

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Nobody’s going after anybody unless they break the law, that’s just paranoia on the And the UK doesn’t have the monopoly on people being killed by other people.

So in summary, the US demands that the world bends to it will legally, and any attempt at reciprocity is rodded right off.

I’m going to bow out now, neither of us is going to convince the other. Suffice to say I wasn’t asking you to denounce your country, just acknowledge it’s amorality on this occasion.
Cheers. Have a lovely evening.
 
You folks are going to be looking for a trade deal with America, and you have managed to piss off the Democratic party who has no love for your country. In three weeks, your going to roll the dice on your economy.

Some times life has double standards, ten years ago that was quite frank.

But no I would not allow any other nations Law Enforcement to arrest American citizens in my country. That would turn out rather badly in many cases I think.

I understand the frustration, I really do. If she leaves the United States of her own accord she is fair game. But if she does not you can't touch her.
Why are you on ROPs again?
 
Strange?
Do you really think PIRA would leave weapons and ammunition laying around for tbe Army to recover?
And if you see equivalence between hippy students putting flowers into Garand puzzles, and a mob of rioting Irishmen...
Stranger still PIRA recovers weapons and ammo in front of and in full sight of Armed Paras and those paras so willing to shoot suddenly dont shoot?

Nice racism by the way implying irish are inherently violent when it was your lot who shot unarmed people
 

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