Harry and Megan: How long will it last?

[Gravdigger]

Tin foil hat firmly on for a moment......

given that the Oprah thing is almost certainly just a plan to hit the Royal Family as hard as possible and that in the World of Woke the worst possible accusation is Racism, I think that it can be taken as read that HMQ and PtG are going to be firmly accused of the same.

Could it be possible that Phil’s recent hospitalisation is a trifle contrived and his illness slightly exaggerated (tin foil checked for tightness). I think it’s safe to say the the RF have already seen the Oprah interview (or at least a transcript of it) and are looking for ways to minimise the damage. An outright denial of the racism accusations is out of the question, it’s not how the Palace operates. So what’s left? One thing they could do is steal the worldwide publicity by having PtG ‘take a turn for the worse’ at the critical time and then obviously recover miraculously recover a couple of days later when the fuss has diminished.

Yes I know, far fetched and almost certainly bollocks, but it’s an indication of the surreal and Machiavellian nature of the thing that it even crossed my mind.

Feck! I have to agree with you! It IS bollocks!

 

[Sexton Blake]

Hello, hello, what's this?

‘Smear campaign’: Meghan denies allegations she bullied royal staff

The Duchess of Sussex is the victim of a “calculated smear campaign”, her team said today after allegations emerged that she bullied members of staff when she was a working royal.

www.standard.co.uk

The complaint claimed Meghan had allegedly driven two personal assistants out of the household and was undermining the confidence of a third staff member, the newspaper said.

But her spokesman said: "The duchess is saddened by this latest attack on her character, particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself and is deeply committed to supporting those who have experienced pain and trauma.

And

"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."

Thank God for her and her like. My life would be empty and directionless without her.

 

[Simmerit]

Tin foil hat firmly on for a moment......

given that the Oprah thing is almost certainly just a plan to hit the Royal Family as hard as possible and that in the World of Woke the worst possible accusation is Racism, I think that it can be taken as read that HMQ and PtG are going to be firmly accused of the same.

Could it be possible that Phil’s recent hospitalisation is a trifle contrived and his illness slightly exaggerated (tin foil checked for tightness). I think it’s safe to say the the RF have already seen the Oprah interview (or at least a transcript of it) and are looking for ways to minimise the damage. An outright denial of the racism accusations is out of the question, it’s not how the Palace operates. So what’s left? One thing they could do is steal the worldwide publicity by having PtG ‘take a turn for the worse’ at the critical time and then obviously recover miraculously recover a couple of days later when the fuss has diminished.

Yes I know, far fetched and almost certainly bollocks, but it’s an indication of the surreal and Machiavellian nature of the thing that it even crossed my mind.

that explains why they loaded him into an ambulance and shielded him from view with those big umbrellas - nowt wrong with him. He skipped in - sunglasses and Bermuda shorts. Couple of young nurses on his arms. In suspenders

 

[Dwarf]

In suspenders

Just to be clear, him or rhe nurses, or all three?

 

[PhotEx]

And

"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."

Thank God for her and her like. My life would be empty and directionless without her.

she is truly the true new messiah sent to save the world.
will she be teaching the world to sing next?

 

[Cutaway]

"She ... will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."

Shouldn't this be in the sick joke thread ?

 

[Dwarf]

I think this whole thing does signify just how out of touch the royal family actually are with the 21st century.

Most of the things predicted on this thread have happened. It remains to be seen what else will come to light.

I think the RF floored the pedal thinking WOKE is everything and missed out all the minor details that preceed it.

At best its an outstanding demonstration of naievity.

If there's one thing our establishment is good at- its backing the wrong horse.

Had they been that far out of touch they would have advised Harry of the old wisdom of how Princes can shag as many actresses as they like but should never marry them. Good advice as it turns out.
I don't think it had anything to do with woke, they were simply allowing the lad to marry the wench he wanted to. That way he'd remain happy and be more likely to stag on with royal duties. He's the spare, the succession is sorted barring a terrible accident, so this way he could have fun and produce amusing anecdotes for the papers.

What they didn't bargain for, and nobody saw this coming, was an on-the-make, failed actress who desperately wanted to be a celebrity. Then she found out that being a Royal wasn't exactly the same and that higher standards of behaviour were required. So she decided to flee to where she could be a celebrity and be comfortable with it.

It may be rocky right now but they'll get through it and H&M will be relegated to a footnote like his great-uncle.
What he is doing will eventually be seen as petty and spiteful. He's going against his oath and his country by having a go at the RF. As one of the countries assets and their greatest symbol it could only hurt them and the country. He should know that.

 

[Sir Arthur]

Had they been that far out of touch they would have advised Harry of the old wisdom of how Princes can shag as many actresses as they like but should never marry them. Good advice as it turns out.
I don't think it had anything to do with woke, they were simply allowing the lad to marry the wench he wanted to. That way he'd remain happy and be more likely to stag on with royal duties. He's the spare, the succession is sorted barring a terrible accident, so this way he could have fun and produce amusing anecdotes for the papers.

What they didn't bargain for, and nobody saw this coming, was an on-the-make, failed actress who desperately wanted to be a celebrity. Then she found out that being a Royal wasn't exactly the same and that higher standards of behaviour were required. So she decided to flee to where she could be a celebrity and be comfortable with it.

It may be rocky right now but they'll get through it and H&M will be relegated to a footnote like his great-uncle.
What he is doing will eventually be seen as petty and spiteful. He's going against his oath and his country by having a go at the RF. As one of the countries assets and their greatest symbol it could only hurt them and the country. He should know that.

This in buckefuls. If he can't see a money grabbing bitch - fine, we have probably all done something similar, but seeking to make financial gain by effectively selling out your family and country just doesn't sit right with me irregardless of whatever may have gone on behind the curtains. And this whole "my mum was treated badly" has really worn through now.

 

[sonofgreenfinch]

Hello, hello, what's this?

‘Smear campaign’: Meghan denies allegations she bullied royal staff

The Duchess of Sussex is the victim of a “calculated smear campaign”, her team said today after allegations emerged that she bullied members of staff when she was a working royal.

www.standard.co.uk

The complaint claimed Meghan had allegedly driven two personal assistants out of the household and was undermining the confidence of a third staff member, the newspaper said.

But her spokesman said: "The duchess is saddened by this latest attack on her character, particularly as someone who has been the target of bullying herself and is deeply committed to supporting those who have experienced pain and trauma.

And

"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."

Thank God for her and her like. My life would be empty and directionless without her.

Otherwise known as a non-denial denial.

 

[velcrostripes]

The Palace machine has gone into the equivalent of Defcom 1 and she is getting the full smear treatment .
I like the bit about the ear rings .........

 

[MoleBath]

she is truly the true new messiah sent to save the world.
will she be teaching the world to sing next?

Teaching to whine more likely

 

[mnairb]

Had they been that far out of touch they would have advised Harry of the old wisdom of how Princes can shag as many actresses as they like but should never marry them. Good advice as it turns out.
I don't think it had anything to do with woke, they were simply allowing the lad to marry the wench he wanted to. That way he'd remain happy and be more likely to stag on with royal duties. He's the spare, the succession is sorted barring a terrible accident, so this way he could have fun and produce amusing anecdotes for the papers.

What they didn't bargain for, and nobody saw this coming, was an on-the-make, failed actress who desperately wanted to be a celebrity. Then she found out that being a Royal wasn't exactly the same and that higher standards of behaviour were required. So she decided to flee to where she could be a celebrity and be comfortable with it.

It may be rocky right now but they'll get through it and H&M will be relegated to a footnote like his great-uncle.
What he is doing will eventually be seen as petty and spiteful. He's going against his oath and his country by having a go at the RF. As one of the countries assets and their greatest symbol it could only hurt them and the country. He should know that.

Not just Princes - there is a bit in David Niven's book 'The Moons A Balloon' where he said that a Guards Officer had to resign his commission because he was marrying the actress Madeline Carroll (and that marriage didn't last long either).

 

[Cutaway]

I like the bit about the ear rings

Eh ?

 

[naffnickname]

Wore a wedding gift from the sheik who did for Kashoggi by agency in the Embassy in Turkey - with a bone saw. Wore them 3 weeks after the murder on the offical Pacific visit (and several times thereafter). While banging in about humanitarianism. Being seen in 500k worth of yellow diamonds apparently is the price of integrity . Claimed they were borrowed from a jeweller. Earrings

The palace bullying leaks are not a smear campaign, but as she is going for the racism card, of course she will play the Can't comment, sigh, shudder tactic....... which actually open her to harrassment actions.

Apparently she also threw a cup of tea at an aide on the Antipodean visit - staff had been warned she was a difficult lady - that is assault under Australian law too, and not yet openly stated.

Like a fool she has misunderstood that just becuase a thing is not said, that does not mean it is unknown. But then she wilfully misunderstood a lot of rather important things. Like holidng to business contracts.

She is not being attacked. She is now just out there on her own, facing her actions. And in misunderstanding the world at large, her transparent distraction tricks are just making it worse for her.

And her Wiki is being updated.......

 

[Basildon_Bond]

Wore a wedding gift from the sheik who did for the Kashoggi in the Embassy in Turkey - with a bone saw. Wore them 3 weeks after the murder on the offical Pacific visit (and several times thereafter). While banging in about humantarianism. Being seen in 500k worth of yellow diamonds apparently is the price of integrity . Claimed they were borrowed from a jeweller.

The palace bullying leaks are not a smear campaign, but as she is going for the racism card, of course she will play the Can't comment, sigh, shudder tactic....... which actually open her to harrassment actions.

Apparently she also threw a cup of tea at an aide on the Antipodean visit - staff had been warned she was a difficult lady - that is assault under Australian law too, and not yet openly stated.

Like a fool she has misunderstood that just becuase a thing is not said, that does not mean it is unknown. But then she wilfully misunderstood a lot of rather important things. Like holidng to business contracts.

She is not being attacked. She is now just out there on her own, facing her actions. And in misunderstanding the world at large, her transparent distraction tricks are just making it worse for her.

Apparently her Wiki is being updated.......

I would think that picking a PR fight with the Palace would have seemed, even to Meghan, as a terrible idea!

 

[Bodenplatte]

Not just Princes - there is a bit in David Niven's book 'The Moons A Balloon' where he said that a Guards Officer had to resign his commission because he was marrying the actress Madeline Carroll (and that marriage didn't last long either).

Captain Phillip Astley (Life Guards) married Madeleine Carroll and was not required to resign. He went on to serve in WW2 and finally retired as a Colonel.

Niven never let the facts spoil a good story.

 

[FORMER_FYRDMAN]

To be honest, this whole thing raises questions about exactly how worldly wise and influential the RF actually are. Surely, if someone as prominent as Harry got involved with someone with a murky background / questionable intentions- there would have been a bit of research carried out and handbrakes applied??

I would argue that history shows that that approach tends to make things worse, and not just with royals. I think a more important problem to solve is why certain royals are so vulnerable to such an obvious wrong 'un in the first place?

Whatever you think about her and whichever story you believe - Markle not having a clue who Harry was or Markle the gold-digger rocking up in the UK with the most targeted plan since the Dambuster Raid - she successfully, rapidly and, apparently, almost effortlessly snared the most eligible bachelor in Britain.

She clearly knew which buttons to press and he clearly didn't have anything like sufficient smarts to realise she was pressing them, which is a bit concerning given his one time proximity to the throne. Someone should have spotted that vulnerability and moved to address it years ago.

 

[anglo]

I would argue that history shows that that approach tends to make things worse, and not just with royals. I think a more important problem to solve is why certain royals are so vulnerable to such an obvious wrong 'un in the first place?

Whatever you think about her and whichever story you believe - Markle not having a clue who Harry was or Markle the gold-digger rocking up in the UK with the most targeted plan since the Dambuster Raid - she successfully, rapidly and, apparently, almost effortlessly snared the most eligible bachelor in Britain.

She clearly knew which buttons to press and he clearly didn't have anything like sufficient smarts to realise she was pressing them, which is a bit concerning given his one time proximity to the throne. Someone should have spotted that vulnerability and moved to address it years ago.

Someone should have spotted that vulnerability and moved to address it years ago

What and get labelled has a Racialist and lose your job PDQ
From what I can gather, William tried to tell him,

 

[mush_dad]

Had they been that far out of touch they would have advised Harry of the old wisdom of how Princes can shag as many actresses as they like but should never marry them. Good advice as it turns out.

Isn't that the conversation that Wills had with Harry and caused them to fall out

eta: as just mentioned by anglo

 

[Archimedes]

"She is determined to continue her work building compassion around the world and will keep striving to set an example for doing what is right and doing what is good."

Shouldn't this be in the sick joke thread ?

'She will keep striving' = 'She hasn't managed to do this yet'

She'd do well to fire her PR team, who seem next to effing useless - almost everything they do seems to drop her (and Harry) further and further into the smelly stuff, and they can't even use English precisely to help state their client's case.