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Was she sat on the khaziThe words... I have the best words, the greatest...
I mean, who even thinks like that - she was 'clutching' her son whilst having a miscarriage ??
Was she sat on the khaziThe words... I have the best words, the greatest...
I mean, who even thinks like that - she was 'clutching' her son whilst having a miscarriage ??
About 20 years ago my wife nearly had a miscarriage. I don’t remember the medical term, but we were trying for a baby, the egg was fertilised and the body’s pregnancy response kicked in. The egg apparently died within minutes, but the body wasn’t told and continued to think it was pregnant. We told immediate family that we were going to have a baby and everything was fine and my wife started to gain weight until the three month scan. The nurse said (very coldly I thought) “no, nothing there” and we were devastated, absolutely in bits for weeks. Again we only told immediate family (parents and siblings) and eventually life went on and we got over it. The only consolation was that there wasn’t actually a dead baby involved, but that didn’t minimise the pain we felt.
The thought of monetising that grief is disgusting. The thought that Markle has actually invented the whole thing, which is a distinct possibility, is beyond disgusting.
Thanks mate. She’s now my ex-wife, and it was a long time ago. We had our son about a year later and I sometimes think that if that egg had survived he wouldn’t exist.Thoughts with you and your wife.
QuadroonI was tempted to use the term "Mulatto".
Life is strange. We had Emma before we we married and we were late teens. Helen (my ex now but still close friends) and I were so young we were pretty lost with it all. Emma was going to be christened on RFA Fort Austin in Plymouth Sound. I had a reccurring dream that when future father in law was transferring from the cutter to the gangway a wave moved the cutter and he was knocked in the water, dropping the baby. In the dream I jumped in and swam for her. Each time I woke because in the dream I thought if I don't swim too hard I wont reach her and Helen and I could start afresh. Fortunately Fort Austin received a change of sailing orders and the christening never happened. Very few know about my dream and I wouldn't be without Emma now ( a bright happy 30 something AND NO, NO PICTURES!). Life is strange, but we get on with it. We don't make a crisis into an opportunity to pay off the mortgage.Thanks mate. She’s now my ex-wife, and it was a long time ago. We had our son about a year later and I sometimes think that if that egg had survived he wouldn’t exist.
It’s difficult to process the fact that the happiness he has brought us is the result of a tragedy.
Let's recall what we thought of Meghan based on her behaviour before today (i.e. the raison d'etre of this thread).
Deeply manipulative, a PR whore (with 12 PR staff) and a Dianna wannabe.
Always desperate to one up the Cambridges.
The only difference today is it's working.
That is all.. In my experience, women are very unforgiving
My beloved OIC Domestic is absolutely scathing of the woman for exploiting this in the way she has done.I'm not sure it is, at least not in the UK. In my experience, women are very unforgiving of other women who exploit an issue like this, and far more so than men.
My wife is French - there is a saying in my house:That is all.
It's interesting how radio broadcasters are responding to the news. At first they were attacking and ridiculing her, and now...Let's recall what we thought of Meghan based on her behaviour before today (i.e. the raison d'etre of this thread).
Deeply manipulative, a PR whore (with 12 PR staff) and a Dianna wannabe.
Always desperate to one up the Cambridges.
The only difference today is it's working.
1. Because that's only a route open to the famous.We don't make a crisis into an opportunity to pay off the mortgage.
Like this bollocks from the DT, you mean? Well, yeah, it generates many column inches of pontification. Three for the price of one, right there.It's interesting how radio broadcasters are responding to the news. At first they were attacking and ridiculing her, and now...
Someone close to me miscarried a few years back - and then overdosed, not because of the miscarriage but because of familial pressure to try again for another baby (narcissistic mother determined to be a grandmother, and sod the fact that her daughter was traumatised). Getting someone through that was awful, and the actions of some unforgivable.To those of you saying your wives/daughters/etc have had miscarriages and it's not to be discussed, are you really sure that's their wish? Brushing it under the carpet and carrying on, as if it were nothing more than stubbing a toe isn't helpful. Regardless of what stage the pregnancy was in, that woman has lost a child. If it were a child that had lived, been held in your arms or seen grown up and then died, would you never mention them again?
The comments (said by nurses and doctors, not just on here) that it's very common I know is somehow meant to be reassuring, to imply that it wasn't necessarily the fault of the mother, but again, if a child had been run over, would you turn to the parents and say "oh hundreds of children get run over every day, don't worry about it"?
I'm not defending Megan in the way she's publicised this, or even going to speculate whether its true or not, but I am shocked at the way some of you have said it shouldn't be talked about, and that is one part of her statement that I do agree with.
Someone close to me miscarried a few years back - and then overdosed, not because of the miscarriage but because of familial pressure to try again for another baby (narcissistic mother determined to be a grandmother, and sod the fact that her daughter was traumatised). Getting someone through that was awful, and the actions of some unforgivable.
Like you, I've no idea whether this is made up or not. My own humanity hopes not. My problem and my sadness is that Meghan is such a media whore that I no longer put anything beyond her in terms of the lengths she'll go to.
Hence, I guess, my Katie Price comment up-thread. Two from the same pod, as far as I'm concerned.
And that's it - I'm sure there's a circle of friends who can help with the grieving process. Or some well-paid counsellors.Comment from Wifey and her females mates on hearing the news - "oh for "f's" sake, what a cow" And this from a group of ladies across the country who have suffered cancer, loss of loved ones, lose of work, etc etc and miscarriage (the normal life things). They would have sympathy for a miscarriage, everyone does, but the "I want privacy and I just want this broadcast! killed any sympathy.
When our friends have have life events it's communicated by the "Just to let you know I have ..." or "I think you should know X has ....."
MM is playing Diana's game - I don't want publicity, oh but I'm slipping out of the lime light; quick PR team, what can we let slip to the press...
Wife 1 had a miscarriage early in our marriage. At the time, we discussed this with her best friend, a doctor, my best friend's wife, a radiographer, and another good friend's wife, a palliative care nurse. Wife was of the opinion that that she was at fault in spite of these three people (close to us) saying things like "75% of all first pregnancies miscarry" - medical fact. We told my parents and hers, and our siblings. It was never spoken about again, partially because we wanted to move on and she thought that discussing what may have been was counter-productive.To those of you saying your wives/daughters/etc have had miscarriages and it's not to be discussed, are you really sure that's their wish? Brushing it under the carpet and carrying on, as if it were nothing more than stubbing a toe isn't helpful. Regardless of what stage the pregnancy was in, that woman has lost a child. If it were a child that had lived, been held in your arms or seen grown up and then died, would you never mention them again?
The comments (said by nurses and doctors, not just on here) that it's very common I know is somehow meant to be reassuring, to imply that it wasn't necessarily the fault of the mother, but again, if a child had been run over, would you turn to the parents and say "oh hundreds of children get run over every day, don't worry about it"?
I'm not defending Megan in the way she's publicised this, or even going to speculate whether its true or not, but I am shocked at the way some of you have said it shouldn't be talked about, and that is one part of her statement that I do agree with.
Miscarriage is very common and very much apart of the natural pregnancy process, but for obvious reasons, it's a subject that's generally avoided by those hoping to conceive.To those of you saying your wives/daughters/etc have had miscarriages and it's not to be discussed, are you really sure that's their wish? Brushing it under the carpet and carrying on, as if it were nothing more than stubbing a toe isn't helpful. Regardless of what stage the pregnancy was in, that woman has lost a child. If it were a child that had lived, been held in your arms or seen grown up and then died, would you never mention them again?
The comments (said by nurses and doctors, not just on here) that it's very common I know is somehow meant to be reassuring, to imply that it wasn't necessarily the fault of the mother, but again, if a child had been run over, would you turn to the parents and say "oh hundreds of children get run over every day, don't worry about it"?
I'm not defending Megan in the way she's publicised this, or even going to speculate whether its true or not, but I am shocked at the way some of you have said it shouldn't be talked about, and that is one part of her statement that I do agree with.