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Harrier 809

This superb book describes how 809 Squadron (Sea Harrier) was reformed as an emergency measure in April 1982 at the start of the Falklands War. One RN senior pilot was tasked with finding enough serviceable aircraft and sufficiently qualified pilots (some on exchange in far-flung places) to cover attrition in 800 and 801 Squadrons during the war. In the event, 809 was formed, trained and transported south on the MV Atlantic Conveyor ready to start carrier-based front-line combat by mid May.

This is a large volume; packed with information both technical, human and political and is complete with plenty of colour photographs - a few unseen until now - and some decent maps. Personal and official accounts of air combat, bombing and missile attacks and tactics are plentiful, as are fine details of the operations of all three UK Forces.

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Despite the vast amount of information as described, there are bonuses in the form of intelligence and diplomatic events of the time - which reveal quite a few surprises particularly about our allies and enemies during the war!

This book is beautifully researched and written - a long and drawn-out review simply could not do it justice. A fitting tribute to the men, aircraft and ships involved and, in my opinion, is a 'must-read'. Rating: 5/5

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syrup

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Harrier 809 by Rowland White

This superb book describes how 809 Squadron (Sea Harrier) was reformed as an emergency measure in April 1982 at the start of the Falklands War. One RN senior pilot was tasked with finding enough serviceable aircraft and sufficiently qualified pilots (some on exchange in far-flung places) to cover attrition in 800 and 801 Squadrons during the war. In the event, 809 was formed, trained and transported south on the MV Atlantic Conveyor ready to start carrier-based front-line combat by mid May.

This is a large volume; packed with information both technical, human and political and is complete with plenty of colour photographs - a few unseen until now - and some decent maps. Personal and official accounts of air combat, bombing and missile attacks and tactics are plentiful, as are fine details of the operations of all three UK Forces.

Despite the vast amount of information as described, there are bonuses in the form of intelligence and diplomatic events of the time - which reveal quite a few surprises particularly about our allies and enemies during the war!

This book is beautifully researched and written - a long and drawn-out review simply could not do it justice. A fitting tribute to the men, aircraft and ships involved and, in my opinion, is a 'must-read'. Rating: 5/5

Great review thanks it's already sitting in the basket at Amazon.

I worked with a few guys at RAF Wittering who had been on the Conveyor when she got hit.
One of the Chiefs had a fancy warm weather suit he wore on the line.
He'd been given it after all his stuff went down with the ship.
 

goodoldboy

MIA
Book Reviewer
Great review thanks it's already sitting in the basket at Amazon.

I worked with a few guys at RAF Wittering who had bene on the Conveyor when she got hit.
One of the Chiefs had a fancy warm weather suit he wore on the line.
He'd been given it after all his stuff went down with the ship.
Many thanks, a book that was a pleasure to read and which I'm sure you will enjoy! Cheers...
 
A huge amount of work to get 809 NAS ready for war was done by the late Lt Cdr Taylor Scott. As John Farley of BAe said:

If there was one person that deserves a medal for the way the Sea Harrier was operated in the Falklands .. it's Taylor, because he made sure that what was in that cockpit was what the naval pilots needed to do their job

— John Farley
 

goodoldboy

MIA
Book Reviewer
A huge amount of work to get 809 NAS ready for war was done by the late Lt Cdr Taylor Scott. As John Farley of BAe said:

If there was one person that deserves a medal for the way the Sea Harrier was operated in the Falklands .. it's Taylor, because he made sure that what was in that cockpit was what the naval pilots needed to do their job

— John Farley
Yes, indeed and a worthy comment. That's always a problem with books as good as this, in that you can't include everyone and everything. Cheers...
 
Yes, indeed and a worthy comment. That's always a problem with books as good as this, in that you can't include everyone and everything. Cheers...
Rowland White, along with Mike Rossiter, is one of my favorite authors on stuff like this. They seem to make real effort to get it right and to include as much as possible.

Looks like Harrier 809 is next on my list.
 

LD17

Old-Salt
Found this on another forum.....

"7. The RAF’s Alert Measures Committee argued for the introduction of an ‘RAF flat-top’, an aircraft-carrying ship from which it could fly aircraft under Air Force, rather than Navy command and control. Members of the RAF Marine Branch, it suggested, might be used to help crew it."

I mean...really !!!!:rolleyes:
 
Found this on another forum.....

"7. The RAF’s Alert Measures Committee argued for the introduction of an ‘RAF flat-top’, an aircraft-carrying ship from which it could fly aircraft under Air Force, rather than Navy command and control. Members of the RAF Marine Branch, it suggested, might be used to help crew it."

I mean...really !!!!:rolleyes:

Oh, Lordy Lordy Lordy. You've only gone and done it now.

Over in Grenada, a symbol of a bellend is being projected onto the moon; in parallel, a bottle of whisky is being cracked. Within 30 mins or so, there will be dozens of angry, bitter, incoherent, nonsensical assertions backed up by "Executive Papers"* detailing the following:
  • Conspiracies by the Crabs
  • How awesome He was on CORPORATE.
  • More conspiracies by the Crabs.
  • How all of the other Sea Harrier squadrons on CORPORATE were s**t and unfit to lace His shoes.
  • How He was SOOOOOO insulted - insulted, I tell you - when He wasn't allowed to disembark the VC10 at Brize first, to trumpets and choirs of angels.
  • How He left the RN of His own accord.
  • Did I mention conspiracies by the Crabs?

* Executive Paper = The incoherent ramblings of one of the Navy's most bitter, vexatious has-beens.
 
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Oh, Lordy Lordy Lordy. You've only gone and done it now.

Over in Grenada, a symbol of a bellend is being projected onto the moon; in parallel, a bottle of whisky is being cracked. Within 30 mins or so, there will be dozens of angry, bitter, incoherent, nonsensical assertions backed up by "Executive Papers"* detailing the following:
  • Conspiracies by the Crabs
  • How awesome He was on CORPORATE.
  • More conspiracies by the Crabs.
  • How all of the other Sea Harrier squadrons on CORPORATE were s**t and unfit to lace His shoes.
  • How He was SOOOOOO insulted - insulted, I tell you - when he wasn't allowed to disembark the VC10 at Brize first, to trumpets and choirs of angels.
  • How He left the RN of His own accord.
  • Did I mention conspiracies by the Crabs?

* Executive Paper = The incoherent ramblings of one of the Navy's most bitter, vexatious has-beens.

Forgive me, but I think you've possibly not mentioned that everything was a conspiracy by the Crabs, set up years in advance when the bilingual Fg Off Leopold Gall-Theirry was sent undercover to Argentina, with the instruction to become a deep sleeper agent who would create the conditions for a glorious Crab PR triumph years hence, denying the Sea Harrier pilots of their glory and.... (coming in a submission to a Defence Select Committee near you shortly).
 
Forgive me, but I think you've possibly not mentioned that everything was a conspiracy by the Crabs, set up years in advance when the bilingual Fg Off Leopold Gall-Theirry was sent undercover to Argentina, with the instruction to become a deep sleeper agent who would create the conditions for a glorious Crab PR triumph years hence, denying the Sea Harrier pilots of their glory and.... (coming in a submission to a Defence Select Committee near you shortly).

I have mentioned this before, can't remember in which thread:

Years ago I was treated to a tirade by a particularly obnoxious knobhead of a 4-ring RN Lynx observer in the bar at Shrivenham.

His take, and I s**t you not:
  • There were more RN pilots and FAA Sqns in the Battle of Britain than there were RAF ones.
  • The RAF elected, in SDSR10, to bin the GR9 Harrier and the Nimrod MR2 replacement because that was what would cause most damage to the RN.
  • There were NO RAF pilots on Sea Harriers in the Falklands War (might come as news to David Morgan and others).
  • There are, on the black economy, RAF Staff departments at HQ Air tasked with stripping out the FAA.
I ended up telling this guy to f**k off, such was his level of cu*t-itude.
 

Mrs Slocombe

Old-Salt
I read this, and although it was very good, it was a bit Jeremy Clarkson. Pilots "piling on the coals" etc.
At one point he says RAF Wyton is in Rutland, which makes you wonder how accurate the rest is.
 

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