Haitians want US to "take over"

#1
I say... no thanks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35176910/ns/world_news-washington_post

"I want the Americans to take over the country. The Haitian government can't do anything for us," said Jean-Louis Geffrard, a laborer who lives under a tarp in the crowded square. "When we tell the government we're hungry, the government says, 'We're hungry, too.' "

Added Canga Matthieu, a medical student whose school was destroyed: "The American government should take care of us."
Now I hope we can get the hell out of there.

 
#2
Mr_Deputy said:
...and what DOES happen to a mouse if you give him a cookie?
If you give him a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk. He'll want to look in a mirror to make sure he doesn't have a milk mustache, and then he'll ask for a pair of scissors to give himself a trim....
 
#3
Mr_Deputy said:
ghost_us said:
Mr_Deputy said:
...and what DOES happen to a mouse if you give him a cookie?
If you give him a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk. He'll want to look in a mirror to make sure he doesn't have a milk mustache, and then he'll ask for a pair of scissors to give himself a trim....
Mine just eat the cookie and do a dump afterwards. You got some cheeky and might I add, rather vain mice around your way.
Haha, indeed.

It's a kids book pretty much teaching the old adage: "No good deed goes unpunished."
 
#4
Mr_Deputy said:
...and what DOES happen to a mouse if you give him a cookie?
In my gaffe, they fall over dead from the huge amounts of rat poison I put in the cookies.

Not for the mice you understand.



For the local children.
 
#5
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"I want the Americans to take over the country. The Haitian government can't do anything for us," said Jean-Louis Geffrard, a laborer who lives under a tarp in the crowded square. "When we tell the government we're hungry, the government says, 'We're hungry, too.' "

Added Canga Matthieu, a medical student whose school was destroyed: "The American government should take care of us."
OH HELL NO. 8O 8O :evil: :evil: We don't want Haiti. :evil: :evil: Turn it over to the U.N. or better yet, let France as the former colonial power provide support. Or let Chavez send in his National Guard. It would be a change from jap-slapping shopkeepers who raise their prices because Chavez has devalued the currency. Put up or shut up "President for Life" Mr. Socialism. :threaten:
 

spad

War Hero
#6
10/10 for the colouring in :)
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
One has to remember that it was France who screwed the Haitians in the first place. Although the slave revolt was welcomed in the first flush of the French Revolution, Napoleon tried to reintroduce slavery in Haiti and then stuck Haiti with an enormous debt to compensate for the loss of 'property' (i.e. slaves). Coupled with this, Toussaint Louverture who had won the Haitian slaves their freedom was lured to France and then double-crossed and locked up to rot in a French dungeon. Accepting responsibility for this obscene debt was forced by a major military expediiton and the Haitians had to sign up. France owes Haiti A LOT but is merely poncing about now pretending to be a friend in order to keep some glimmering remnant of the Fr language alive, before Haitians with any initiative start demanding that their children are taight English (albeit the strange American patois variant). If France had any moral sense it would be leading the resurrection of Haiti instead of hoping Uncle Sam will pick up most of the bill.
 
#10
Christ! I don't mind helping, but the last thing we need is becoming sugar daddy to Haiti.

Want to help Haiti in the long run? Encourage educated Haitians to stay in their native country and rebuild and restructure their society. We don't need another college educated Haitian street peddler or taxi driver in Brooklyn.
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
As to the US, I think one element in the US generous and commendable response to the earthquake is rooted in the Monroe Doctrine, that is to say Haiti has always been seen as part of America's backyard albeit a rather untidy and intractable part of it. There may also ba a fear that Cuba or Venezuela may start meddling and that the Haitians might be taken in by an appearance of charity from these countries which would really be merely anti-US meddling (since neither can actually deliver anything worthwhile, but there would be a lot of propaganda and offers of Marxist moonbeams in anything they do input.
 
#12
Well as Goldbricker says, I don't mind helping but I don't want the Haitians to get any ideas about us going in there and running their country for them. We're skint and we're in hock to the Chinese as it is. :x
 
#15
Goldbricker said:
Christ! I don't mind helping, but the last thing we need is becoming sugar daddy to Haiti.

Want to help Haiti in the long run? Encourage educated Haitians to stay in their native country and rebuild and restructure their society. We don't need another college educated Haitian street peddler or taxi driver in Brooklyn.
If you do that, then they'll just flock further north to Montreal. Mind you, the strip joints in Montreal would be much poorer if the Haitian birds did stop coming to Canada. :(
 
#16
If you do that, then they'll just flock further north to Montreal. Mind you, the strip joints in Montreal would be much poorer if the Haitian birds did stop coming to Canada.
That works for me. Let 'em flock to the Great White North. They ought to get along well with the other Francophone speakers; the Quebecois. Lord knows the Quebecois seem to make a habit of not getting along with the Anglophones. [Sore losers I reckon. ;) ]

:giggle:
 
#17
How about paying for several battalions of Haitians to go the Afghanistan? In the short term it will reduce the number of people in Haiti and in the longer term the returning veterans can sort the country out.
 
#18
Ruckerwocman said:
If you do that, then they'll just flock further north to Montreal. Mind you, the strip joints in Montreal would be much poorer if the Haitian birds did stop coming to Canada.
That works for me. Let 'em flock to the Great White North. They ought to get along well with the other Francophone speakers; the Quebecois. Lord knows the Quebecois seem to make a habit of not getting along with the Anglophones. [Sore losers I reckon. ;) ]

:giggle:
Oh, yes...... I remember the scandal in the '90s when there was a mini-riot in Montreal over the Haitian community. It only made the news because it involved John Kordic (NHL hockey player) being at the disturbance, drunk, possibly high on cocaine, and shouting slogans that a National Front rally would find embarrassingly vulgar. No, Montreal's pride of "open-mindedness" and "racial harmony" is a shockingly thin veneer, and if there's a huge influx of refugee Haitians there, I expect to see Montreal's ugly side come to the front.
 
#20
Ruckerwocman said:
OH HELL NO. 8O 8O :evil: :evil: We don't want Haiti. :evil: :evil: Turn it over to the U.N. or better yet, let France as the former colonial power provide support. Or let Chavez send in his National Guard. It would be a change from jap-slapping shopkeepers who raise their prices because Chavez has devalued the currency. Put up or shut up "President for Life" Mr. Socialism. :threaten:
That is really, really stretching the idea of a former colonial power - the Haitians kicked the frenchies out ca. 1800. In the intervening period if any nation has treated the sh!thole of Haiti as a colony it has been the good old USA, who occupied the country between 1915-1934, who supported the Duvalier boys (père et fils), and then propped up, then removed Aristide.


I'm not anti USA, just pointing out that sometimes the chickens come home to roost... The place is barking mad, sh!t poor and the most depressing place I have been (apart from Poland or Old Trafford).

I'm just back from South America where a lot of chat is about Chavez getting very, very twitchy about the number of US troops that are in Haiti. With the new potential bases in Colombia, the use of the Dutch bass in the Antilles, and now Haiti, Venezuela is surrounded by gringo bases...

Paranoid? :twisted:
 

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