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Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness To Run For The Office Of President Of Ireland | World News | Sky News

McGuinness To Run For Irish Presidency



The former IRA leader and current deputy first minister of Northern Ireland will be formally endorsed by his party leadership over the weekend.

The announcement is already being billed as the republican movement's most audacious act since IRA prisoner Bobby Sands stood as an MP.

Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams said: "The officer board will recommend that the candidate will be Martin McGuinness.

"Sinn Fein believes that the office of Uachtaran na hEireann has been made more relevant by Mary Robinson and by President Mary McAleese.

"This is a time of great challenge for all the people of Ireland. We need positive but authentic leadership.

"It will be a great honour for me to propose Martin McGuinness to contest this election on a broad, republican, citizen-centred platform."

Mr Adams added: "I believe that this election will give Martin the platform to continue the work which he has led in the North and in the peace process and to put it on a national footing.

"I would appeal, if Martin contests this election, for people to join in this campaign, including people in the North and across the diaspora who are denied a vote at this time.

"The campaign will give citizens the opportunity to make a stand for a better Ireland, for a united Ireland."

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Would that make him a 'legitimate' target for a terrorist? :)
 
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It won't happen.

I live in the rebel county, and they fancy themselves as being a tad anti establishment in these parts, but the general consensus is that Mcguinness is a feckin moron.
 
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Ladbrokes don't rate his chances very high!


Next Irish President Betting Odds |Bet at Ladbrokes.com

Michael D. Higgins 8/13 Susp.
Gay Mitchell 7/2 Susp.
Martin McGuinness 13/2 Susp.
Mary Davis 9/1 Susp.
David Norris 14/1 Susp.
Sean Gallagher 20/1 Susp.
Labhrás Ó Murchú 66/1 Susp.
Michelle Gildernew 999/1 Susp.
 
#11
It won't happen.

I live in the rebel county, and they fancy themselves as being a tad anti establishment in these parts, but the general consensus is that Mcguinness is a feckin moron.
You know you are free to leave Cork...they can't keep you there.


I would.

Oh Jesus just thinking of their fucking accent makes me want to headbutt the wall.
 
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You know you are free to leave Cork...they can't keep you there.


I would.


Oh Jesus just thinking of their fucking accent makes me want to headbutt the wall.
I know exactly what you mean, however down in West Cork, where I hang me washing, the accent is a lot softer on the ear, and entirely incomprehensible.

However, 'McGuinness is a twat' works well in most dialects.
 
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Any Oirish presidents ever been slotted?
Michael Collins was president of the IRB (and therefore, in the doctrine of that organisation, de jure President of the Irish Republic) when he was killed by the IRA.

I sometimes wonder whether -- if Collins had survived --Churchill could have rallied him to the British side in World War II as an advisor. He did it with Smuts, and very few leaders were as as fanatically anti-British in their time as Smuts was. It's astonishing to recall that the ex-Boer leader became a member of the Imperial War Cabinet, was appointed a Field Marshal in the British Army and that the King seriously considered that Smuts should replace Churchill if Churchill was incapacitated. And yet Smuts wasn't in the same league as Collins. The big fellow was one of the most capable guerrilla leaders in history. God knows, Churchill's cabinet always badly needed somebody who was in touch with reality.
 
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You know you are free to leave Cork...they can't keep you there.


I would.

Oh Jesus just thinking of their fucking accent makes me want to headbutt the wall.
"I love my soup me"
 
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The only thing Gerry Adams has ever said that I could agree with is:
"Sinn Fein believes that the office of Uachtaran na hEireann has been made more relevant by Mary Robinson and by President Mary McAleese.
I have a good bit of respect for both ladies.
 
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I sometimes wonder whether -- if Collins had survived --Churchill could have rallied him to the British side in World War II as an advisor. He did it with Smuts, and very few leaders were as as fanatically anti-British in their time as Smuts was. It's astonishing to recall that the ex-Boer leader became a member of the Imperial War Cabinet, was appointed a Field Marshal in the British Army and that the King seriously considered that Smuts should replace Churchill if Churchill was incapacitated. And yet Smuts wasn't in the same league as Collins. The big fellow was one of the most capable guerrilla leaders in history. God knows, Churchill's cabinet always badly needed somebody who was in touch with reality.
Collins was never a strategist. But he was, as you say, a very capable and brutal guerrilla leader. If he had been a strategist he would have seen the value of co-operating with the leaders of what became Northern Ireland. Instead he supplied arms to his sworn enemy, D Valera, for use only against the "north" (how Irish was that?). This action reinforced the belief of the northerners that no one in the "south" could ever be trusted.
If instead Collins had been magnanimous and offered the the new northern state control of all NINE counties of Ulster (the British Government was quite supportive of this arrangement), the Unionists, possibly besides being more trustful of their southern neighbour, would be in the minority in less than half the time it has actually taken. A United Ireland on a reasonably terrorist-free basis might be in today's history books - but for Collins.

Collins' tactics were strategy free. His tactics; capture the opponent who dared to shoot at you yesterday, and shoot him tomorrow (even if he is a relative!). Not much long term planning there! Of course the De Valera side was just as blind - their hatred of the "north" lasted much longer than that of the Collins faction. No true strategist there either then?

We come much further into the future to find one. Dare I mention a certain Adams?
 
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Well, given the belief that half the Army Council were agents of one sort or another for British intelligence I can't se the establishment of Eire welcoming yer man with open arms.
 
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Well, given the belief that half the Army Council were agents of one sort or another for British intelligence I can't se the establishment of Eire welcoming yer man with open arms.
The "establishment of Eire", by which you no doubt mean certain elements of the political establishment of the Republic of Ireland, will welcome anyone who can ensure their lifestyle of luxury is maintained in a near bankrupt country. Martin has form for his adeptness in persuading the UK and the EU to fund projects of his special interest. His supporters say his history as a terrorist and an informant is in the past and is now irrelevant.
 
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Indeed, there are no old terrorists (as David Ben Gurian and sundry others would attest), just new statemen.
 
#20
Michael Collins was president of the IRB (and therefore, in the doctrine of that organisation, de jure President of the Irish Republic) when he was killed by the IRA.
Interesting take on Irish history but totally inaccurate as the Irish Republic as we know it did not come into existence until 18 April, 1949 and its first president was Douglas Hyde. The King as Head of State was laid down in Article 12 of the Constitution of the Irish Free State. It didn't matter what position Michael Collins held in the IRB, he was a signatory of the Anglo-Irish Treaty and therefore accepted it in totality rendering any claim to an Irish presidency (which didn't exist under the treaty) impossible.
 

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