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H15 - Mobilisation

#1
I'll start by saying this is my first tour, so I know nothing on how it works really.

Allegedly we will be mobilising in June this year and for those of us who can count that's 5 months away. At this stage we've been told nothing other than "You'll mobilise in June". What I'd like to know (preferably from people who've mobilised H12 or H13) is when did you actually start getting briefed on the tour? Details like the following:

-What your role in Reg Bn/Theatre will be?
-Exact dates of mobilisation and deployment.
-When you should start informing employers?

All info appreciated.
 
#2
I'll start by saying this is my first tour, so I know nothing on how it works really.

Allegedly we will be mobilising in June this year and for those of us who can count that's 5 months away. At this stage we've been told nothing other than "You'll mobilise in June". What I'd like to know (preferably from people who've mobilised H12 or H13) is when did you actually start getting briefed on the tour? Details like the following:

-What your role in Reg Bn/Theatre will be?
-Exact dates of mobilisation and deployment.
-When you should start informing employers?

All info appreciated.
I'm in the same boat as StabOfFire. Anyone else who is Mobilising on Heriick 15 could you give us an insight of how up to speed you are with dates or roles ect.
 
#3
I stand by to be corrected but Herrick 15 is October 2011-April 2012.
20th Armoured Brigade are taking over from 3 Commando Brigade.
There will be three months of pre deployment training with the unit you are going with.
So paperwork/Chilwell July time?
There is still a lot to be finalised....

-What your role in Reg Bn/Theatre will be? Who are you going with?
-Exact dates of mobilisation and deployment.
-When you should start informing employers?
 
#4
I can give you some info that might help. Blokes from my Regt have recently mobilised for H14. As far as I am aware they had nothing confirmed to them until they hit Chilwell, ie which unit they area going to etc. So the exact role within that Regt is unlikely to be confirmed until you actually join them.
With regards to informing employers I would say nothing until you get the envelope through the door, unless you have a good relationship with a supportive employer in which case it is at your discretion, but I would stick to the above.
The exact date of mobilisation will not be known until you get the envelope, but as a guide I would say 4 months prior to the deployment. Your unit should give you as much info as possible as soon as they get it, but that doesnt always happen!
Start hammering the phys now, go and see the dentist.
Good luck.
 
#6
Chilwell start of June. 3 months with deploying unit then deploy end of Sept-ish, mission specific training will take place during that 3 month period. Requirements to fill empty PID's etc still to be finalised. I intend on saying nothing to my employer until I get my mobilisation papers, no point causing myself extra hassle until I know if Im needed and Ill only know that for sure if/when the brown envelope hits the mat.
 
#8
The dentist is no longer as big an issue as it once was as they are now taking people on risk with dental problems. Not sure exactly how it works I belive they tell them to get it sorted the may re-emburs the cost
I have heard about this, but what classes as a dental problem, a filling or cracked tooth, how **** are they?
 
#9
All good info so thanks.

Is brown envelope 4 months prior to mobilising or deploying? Reason I ask is I'd like to give a little more notice than 4 weeks to my employer that I'm going to be gone for a year!

So if we mob in June and deploy in Oct, do papers turn up Feb or June?
 
#10
Is brown envelope 4 months prior to mobilising or deploying? Reason I ask is I'd like to give a little more notice than 4 weeks to my employer that I'm going to be gone for a year!

So if we mob in June and deploy in Oct, do papers turn up Feb or June?
Paperwork will arrive with you within weeks rather than months of your mob date.
 
#12
RTMC - ARRSEpedia
The RTMC Chilwell TA mobilisation package lasts 12 days (ie. Report on a Monday, work through the weekend to the following Friday). The first few days is a whirlwind of G1(Personnel, Finance and Admin) & G4 (Kit Issue) : Medical, Dental, and Terms and Conditions of Service and Movement Briefs. Your course will be split into syndicates and you'll deal with each of the above in a round-robin. There will be lost of waiting around during the first few days, so bring a good book! At the end of the 2nd day, assuming you've survived the medical and dental exams, and have no strange G1 circumstances, you'll be signed into Regular service. You will not receive your 'Call out Gratuity' of £458 if you are not accepted into service.

Then begins the 10 Day MATT phase. MATTs 1-6 are covered with plenty of instruction and assessments at the end. The MATTs are:
* MATT1 - Weapon Handling Tests and APWT (1.5 Days and 3 Days on Ranges)
* MATT2 - PFT and CFT (4 Hrs)
* MATT3 - Battlefield Casualty Drills (BCD) (1.5 Days)
* MATT4 - CBRN (1.5 Days)
* MATT5 - Map Reading (4 Hrs)
* MATT6 - Values and Standards (30 mins)
As far as I am aware this is still the format?
Call-out notice and pack - British Army Website
 
#14
Paperwork will arrive with you within weeks rather than months of your mob date.
Have the Army not got a bit better at this sort of thing yet? No employer is going to be particularly chuffed with an employee turning round to them and saying "I'm off for a year boss...oh and you've got a couple of weeks to find a replacement". I'd have thought we'd at least get it within 1-2 months before mobilisation date?
 
#15
Have the Army not got a bit better at this sort of thing yet? No employer is going to be particularly chuffed with an employee turning round to them and saying "I'm off for a year boss...oh and you've got a couple of weeks to find a replacement". I'd have thought we'd at least get it within 1-2 months before mobilisation date?
Not sure if it would be worth sending out anything sooner as many people drop out along the way or dont make the grade.

Fancy a guess at the percentage of hands up a year before a tour compared to the actual number who make it through all the DIE training, Chilwell, Regular Battalion beat up training and finally arriving in Theatre...?!?
 
#16
Not sure if it would be worth sending out anything sooner as many people drop out along the way or dont make the grade.

Fancy a guess at the percentage of hands up a year before a tour compared to the actual number who make it through all the DIE training, Chilwell, Regular Battalion beat up training and finally arriving in Theatre...?!?
Yeah fair one and understood, I've seen it thinned out a fair bit already through the DIE phase. I'd just have thought that 1-2 months before mobilization you're going to have a realistic idea of who's going to cut it and who won't.
 
#17
My 2pence worth:

Got the letter in april, for H13,to arrive at chilwell in may. Informed employer only when I had the letter.

Squared as much admin away as I could prior to arrival and did plenty phys leading up to mobilisation. Which, looking back, was a good move as there isnt much time for phys when the training starts and the unit I went to were pretty well into there pt programme.

First week was pretty buckshee with a PFA after the medicals etc. Quite a few failed this which shocked me, as it immediately makes you look like a sh1t cXnt, and they had to retest on the following monday morning when everyone else had a late start.

Second week was a lot busier with all the matt9 CIED lessons to fit in along with DCC apwt and everything else. The CFT was easy going if you had trained for it, although a lot hadn't and they creamed in as its quite hilly and the route is boring as it just goes round and round the barracks for 2 hours. Again, makes you look like a bell end when you tip up at your unit late as you had to stay behind and have another shot at it.

The RCMO, of the unit I was going to, visited towards the end of the second week and informed us of which squadrons we were posted to. He had a good idea of the tour dates but we learned more when we got to the unit. Everything was pretty sketchy at this point. The fitter ones amongst us went to field troops and the wasters ended up in SQs QMs etc and the ones who failed mobilisation went home.

As we got closer to the tour we had a better idea of what our role etc would be as our OC had done his recce and we got good int briefs. Keep on the phys when you get to your unit as some lads got fcuked off into stores jobs etc for being mongs or not keeping up the phys.

Im on R&R at the moment and bored as fcuk. Not sure what happens at the end of it all as its the first TA tour I've done. Did 2 tours as a reg.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
#18
Your papers should arrive 28 days before your mobilisation date, but can be later. You should have already had initial discusions with your employer if you hope to return there after your tour with any kind of good working relationship. Otherwise, you are going to hit your employer with a very last minute notification that you are about to go off for 12 months, leading to the possibility of an appeal being raised against you going or a very disgruntled employer.

There is now no form of dental inspection at RTMC, so you won't fail it. That said, you would be well advised to get your teeth sorted before you deploy. You may be able to get this done at the dental centre that your recieving unit use, but consider the time implications of MST.

The TA Inf cohort for H15 will start unit level MST very soon, following a mandatatory training package put together by 4 Para on behalf of Div. Expect lots of weapon handling and range work, med training, cultural awareness training, C-IED etc. Working in osprey with all of the heavy kit is very physically demanding - start working on it now. It will also prevent you looking a total throbber at RTMC for failing the fitness tests like around 25% of the course will. No idea what other arms are doing.

Ask your SPSI/OC to give you a brief - they have the information, so get them to pass it on.
 
#19
My 2pence worth:

Im on R&R at the moment and bored as fcuk. Not sure what happens at the end of it all as its the first TA tour I've done. Did 2 tours as a reg.
Anything in hindsight you wish you had sorted/taken before you turned up or weren't told about?
Best to arrive by car or rail?
 

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