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If work needs doing it gets done, end of.

And wah?
 

Bugsy

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vampireuk said:
If work needs doing it gets done, end of.

And wah?
That's what I was thinking too. Only a nine-hour day? Cushy number, if you ask me. Now in my time .....

MsG
 
There was some bit of paper floating about that said due to new EU laws (no surprise there then) that the working week in civvie street can not be more than 48 hours. The MOD have said that although they are exempt they will try to follow the law as close as they can which roughly translated means tough titties you are working until the job is done.
 
What happened to the "your paid 24/7,so get on with it" attitude???????????
 
You are not really suited for a Military career....Have you thought about applying to British Leyland?
 
Do they still give Wednesday afternoons off, Early darts on fridays and the weekends off?
 
tankie88 said:
What happened to the "your paid 24/7,so get on with it" attitude???????????

That left around about the year 2002.
 

jameson

Clanker
I know nothing about the working hours thing, my gut reaction is to say "man up, dry your eyes and crack on"

However I'm sure your going to get plenty of that. If the weekend is that important to your lads then tell them to put leave passes in, it doesn't come off there leave card and it would better guard against a friday afternoon dicking. If the guys were working late all week a blind man could have seen weekend work incoming.

If your in at 7:15 and working at 7:30 when the working day doesn't start till 7:45 who's the fool. As for the provost staff manning the gate till 17:00, maybe that's the problem. To many people watching gates and not enough people doing the work inside the wire.
 
jameson said:
However I'm sure your going to get plenty of that. If the weekend is that important to your lads then tell them to put leave passes in, it doesn't come off there leave card and it would better guard against a friday afternoon dicking. If the guys were working late all week a blind man could have seen weekend work incoming.

If theres work to do over a weekend you won't be getting any leave whether you put a pass in or not.
 
Rather than listening to tittle tattle, nonsense and And the “in my day” harrumphing I would suggest you have a read of

2008DIN 01-050

That will answer all your questions
 

lightning47

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I think the EU Directive on Working Hours is something along the lines of not being able to work more than 48 hours a week averaged out over a 17 week period. At present you can, however, choose to opt out of this directive. i have heard some talk about removing the opt out. I think the MOD has its own opt out.

I remember a lot of talk about restricting working hours when I was in NI in the mid 90s. Lots of us were working shifts/long days and then being on call every night. We were of the opinion that we were operational and, if anyone tried to impose the directive, we would still work whatever hours it took to get the job done.

I'm now a Civil Servant and the EU directive applies to us. I had one member of staff who chose to opt out and regularly put in well over the odds (without overtime!). Dedication to his job (and well respected by all).
 
When I was in Takn Transporting a 15 hour day wan't unusual, but more like 07:30 leave the gates and pull in somewhere else in teh UK at 18:00, including weekends. 70+ hour weeks were pretty common, but as for the most party we were hundreds of miles from camp, left alone and got claims, we enjoyed it and kept shtum.
Since I became a civvy I have noticed that (as I work for local govt for my day job) working hours are strictly enforced, and if the organisation cannot getthe work done in teh allocated time with the currrent level of man\woman power then they hire more stff to help cope!
A lot of the long hours worked by the army when not on ops are due to poor planning, lack of manpower or simply lack of resourses. Thats what I would be addressing. Those willing to upset the apple cart to rectify the situation however are few and far between.
 
stacker1 said:
If theres work to do over a weekend you won't be getting any leave whether you put a pass in or not.

Here's an idea. What about submitting a leave pass and ticking the 'Ren-Leave' box (can't be refused), even if it's just a weekend? Is this a cunning little loophole that noone else is stupid enough to try, or has this been tried and thwarted before?
 
verticalgyro said:
Plenty of arrseholes offering their "Man Up" advice on this thread I see.

What you need to explain is whether this is a regular occurrence, or a one-off dicking.

If this is happening regularly to your lads then something is wrong. Whether it is bad management, bad planning, or simply overstretch and undermanning, if this is happening regularly then something is wrong and something should be done about it. Looking at DINS and getting "figures and guidelines" isn't going to help; you make out you're in the Sgts Mess, surely there is someone you can have a word with and try and get something sorted? Constantly screwing the lads to the floor will only exacerbate the issue; they'll sign off and there will still be the same amount of graft for even less people.

If it's an infrequent case then you should Man The Fcuk Up, stop whining and take the hit.

Yes of course you are quite right, as a leader having a knowledge of the laws, rules and regulations isn’t going to help in the slightest when it comes to standing up for your boys :roll: :roll:
 

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vampireuk said:
If work needs doing it gets done, end of.

And wah?

correct
 

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