Guy Denton Savage: naughty boy

[stoatman]

Well, it looks like he was arms trafficking...

Sabre Defence owner Guy Savage arrested | The Firearm Blog

Orange boiler suit time.

If I owned a Sabre Defence rifle, I would be wondering whether it is going to be seized as a result of this...

 

[Drlligaf]

Stoaty you forgot the free food and accomodation!

 

[STABALTERN69]

Sabre Defense is up for a foreclosure sale on the 15 February 2011

 

[ugly]

Lots about at the moment, I'm surprised he made anything to sell personally, I did start a thread on this earlier but heh in for a penny!

 

[Beerhunter]

There seems to be little sympathy, not to say some schadenfreude, for Mr. Savage. As someone who has only met him a couple of times I'm left wondering why.

Does it have anything to do with him shopping Grant Wilkinson only after the cheques had cleared? Or have I missed something?

 

[Hellmans]

Savage has always pushed the boundaries. In 1991 I bought an Australian Arms Semi Auto Pistol 'SAP' in .223 from him, on my ticket as a .223 pistol.

It was nothing more than a cut down AR15 mechanism with a forward cocking handle similar to the MP5 and a detachable butt.

Looked the part with 30 or 40 round mags on and didn't half make a loud noise through it's 11" (from memory) barrel.

Anyhow, I sold it on, fortunately just before the dealers and owners got the 6am knock from plod and they were all seized as Sect 5's!

Lost a few quid, not much, but was very close to losing it all.

I remember him at the Pistol AD '90 meeting extolling the virtues of keeping a .38 in the workshop ('for working on') in case he got robbed, publicly to anyone around. I thought he was a bit of a knob.

 

[ugly]

Savage has always pushed the boundaries. In 1991 I bought an Australian Arms Semi Auto Pistol 'SAP' in .223 from him, on my ticket as a .223 pistol.

It was nothing more than a cut down AR15 mechanism with a forward cocking handle similar to the MP5 and a detachable butt.

Looked the part with 30 or 40 round mags on and didn't half make a loud noise through it's 11" (from memory) barrel.

Anyhow, I sold it on, fortunately just before the dealers and owners got the 6am knock from plod and they were all seized as Sect 5's!

Lost a few quid, not much, but was very close to losing it all.

I remember him at the Pistol AD '90 meeting extolling the virtues of keeping a .38 in the workshop ('for working on') in case he got robbed, publicly to anyone around. I thought he was a bit of a knob.[/QUOTE]

Now you are beig restrained and polite, he also appeared on TV during the press feeding frenzy on the run up to the 97 act stating the same. I have been a member of a few clubs up and down the country and in each one there was a member who had paid the deposit or full amount for one of his products only for it never to be delivered and his folding the company ensuring that no one got anything back. The man is a fat twat! A **** of the highest order who probably would have done well working for someonee else but always managed to blame the police/home office/current financial climate for the **** ups he created himself!
The sooner he is locked up at Texan tax payers expense the better. Perhaps they can subcontract to Sheriff Shapiro!

 

[stoatman]

He also had a habit of taking money for goods and then never delivering... and folding the limited companies before they could be sued.

Amongst other things...

 

[cernunnos]

He also had a habit of taking money for goods and then never delivering... and folding the limited companies before they could be sued.

Amongst other things...

That sounds familiar, the British tax system.

 

[sunoficarus]

If I owned a Sabre Defence rifle, I would be wondering whether it is going to be seized as a result of this...

The Lord of War from suburbia: After dramatic arrest, arms boss faces extradition to the U.S. over claims he smuggled weapons to Iraq | Mail Online

 

[ugly]

Unnatractive personality and that from a barrister. The mans a ****!

 

[stoatman]

Well, there's several things wrong with that article:

1. He won all his court cases; he has never been convicted.

2. He doesn't have a "firearm certificate", he has an RFD with section 5 authority.

3. As an RFD, if he didn't have hundreds of rifles around the place, something would be wrong.

4. Does anyone seriously believe that British armed police shot out the tyres of a car on a suburban north London street? Really? Forgot the Stinger, did they?

I think the Home Orifice has been feeding the press a line...

Of course, doesn't detract from the fact that he is a very naughty boy and a cnut of the first water.

 

[sunoficarus]

Unnatractive personality and that from a barrister. The mans a ****!

Guys alright, a bit of 'colourful' character, but I've always had good dealings with him.

This all smacks of someone outliving his utility to certain people. It's been no secret for years that Guy sells guns to some interesting people in interesting places that the US don't deal with directly.

 

[the_boy_syrup]

This all smacks of someone outliving his utility to certain people. It's been no secret for years that Guy sells guns to some interesting people in interesting places that the US don't deal with directly.

Seems to be lots of it going on in he U.S. at the moment
These two were also up on trying to smuggle AK47 to Libya according to the Press last week

YORK gun dealer accused of illegally smuggling AK-47 magazines into the United States will be free on bail as he awaits trial.

For now firearms dealer, Gary Hyde, managing director of York Guns in Dunnington, must remain in Western New York on GPS monitoring.

He pleaded not guilty and posted $50,000 cash bail yesterday.

However, U.S. District Judge Charles Siragusa is expected to decide in a week whether Hyde can return to England as he awaits trial.

York firearms dealer denies smuggling AK-47 magazines (From York Press)

 

[ugly]

******* no way am I completing that order for bren mags to Canada then! They know the rules, get caught and its off to were the sunshine grows in stripes!

 

[stoatman]

Thinking about that article some more, given that somebody clearly spun a line to the media to make it sound like it was some exciting, sexy bust of an illicit arms dealer rather than a fat Walt who had been smuggling, my evil little mind is wondering whether it shouldn't file a Freedom of Information request to the Home Office asking when it became Home Office policy for armed police to shoot out the tyres of vehicles in built-up areas.

Because clearly it isn't, and I can't for a minute believe that they did, so it's a lie. And they will hedge by saying that they don't give out operational information, since the other options are not good for them: imagine a backlash if they had approved it; and if they haven't, they have lied to the press.

 

[ugly]

The met lying? Heaven forbid, they'll be accused of racism and corruption next!

 

[FourEM]

Thinking about that article some more, given that somebody clearly spun a line to the media to make it sound like it was some exciting, sexy bust of an illicit arms dealer rather than a fat Walt who had been smuggling, my evil little mind is wondering whether it shouldn't file a Freedom of Information request to the Home Office asking when it became Home Office policy for armed police to shoot out the tyres of vehicles in built-up areas.

Because clearly it isn't, and I can't for a minute believe that they did, so it's a lie. And they will hedge by saying that they don't give out operational information, since the other options are not good for them: imagine a backlash if they had approved it; and if they haven't, they have lied to the press.

Press officer has been reading too many Tom Clancy novels methinks

 

[stoatman]

He's been bailed.

And apparently it DID go down the way described, which apparently has a bearing on why he was bailed rather than remanded.

The line being fed to the press is now that they shot at his tyres with Hatton rounds (?!?) Which... yes... erm... want to buy a bridge? I'll throw in the Trafalgar Square Lions with it.



Arms dealer Guy Savage denies 'smuggling' after dramatic armed raid on Pinner home (From Harrow Times)

 

[ugly]

regulatory offences? Well pretty soon the US will issue arrest warrants for crimes committed everywhere. If you can marry 12 year olds in Pakistan and its illegal in the US then they will arrest every fecker. Not that I mind savage getting done but they are over the top.