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  1. From Sunday Mirror

    Up to 800 Gurkha troops could be axed from the Army as part of a series of savage defence cuts.

    An entire battalion of the Nepalese troops is expected to go.

    The cut would be part of a wider slashing of the £34billion defence budget, which has risen steadily since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    The dramatic improvements in Gurkha pay and pension rights in the past two years mean it is too expensive to maintain two infantry battalions.

    The regiment only survived cuts five years ago because their poor pay and pensions made them good value for money. But senior officers say that new rulings giving them better pensions mean they are vulnerable in a wide-ranging defence review.

    In the High Court earlier this year all Gurkhas won the right to be allowed to remain in Britain after serving - and their pay was brought up to the same level as the regular Army. The campaign led by actress Joanna Lumley had forced Gordon Brown into a humiliating U-turn.

    But it left the Government with a huge bill for improving pensions for those settling in Britain. Last night a senior military source said: "If it comes to cutting infantry battalions, the Gurkhas are now No1 on the list.

    "They were only saved from the axe in the last defence cuts because they were seen as being fantastic value for money. Although they are very well-recruited and very good soldiers, they are now no less expensive than any other unit.
  2. Why does this story keep coming around? Is the army in any position to cut infantry numbers? Really is there actually any case to cut the infantry?
  3. Since when has this shamble in charge ever cared about what we need? :x

    Cnuts the lot of them.
  4. Quelle surprise.......

    A typical bit of Labour spite.

    The way politicians/civil serpents minds work there are three possible options for the Gurkhas:

    1: Bin them altogether - who gives a toss about all those years of friendship, loyalty and tradition, or the fact that they are a military asset? They need to be made an example of.

    2: Recruit more and let them bear the brunt of the fighting in Afghanistan on the assumption that Gurkha casualties are less of a political liability than British ones.

    3: Gradually wind them down, keeping them permanently in Afghanistan as you do so.

    Choose the option that appears to offer an immediate short term financial saving and can be announced when there is other major news dominating the headlines.
  5. Who's got St Joanna's number? :evil:
  6. It comes round because it's a political issue. Labour have no respect for the armed forces, they expect more to be done for less money. It is purely a cost cutting initiative.

    The army is in no position to cut numbers. Politicians do not care, see above.

    There is no case to cut numbers, other than saving money, see above.

    Rather than tackle issues such as benefit funded lifestyles, which would cost votes, they cut costs elsewhere. The hoards who vote them in time after time do so to fund their lifestyles. No work and more money than if they worked. The underclass are back, and are happy to live on free money cradle to grave, which will only continue while Labour are in power.
  7. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Don't worry guys - they are expanding the RAF Regt after all so there is nothing to worry about. :(
  8. with 4 infantry battalions supposingly being cut it will just mean shorter between deployments
  9. i thought one Bn was paid for by the Sultan of Brunei? i f we get rid of the other isn't this the end of Ghurka infantry .... and then the rest would just collapse

  10. None that I can see in practical terms. Politically however I think the Ghurkas are doomed if Labour get the chance.
  11. msr

    msr LE

    Gordon. And this is the payback.

  12. Just wait. The service chiefs will be tearing each other apart once the politicos start talking cuts. It's a shame that once they reach 3-star rank (with a few honourable exceptions), backbones seem to collapse.

    They should collectively tell the New Labour scumbags to feck off.
  13. The one silver lining around these dark clouds is that forces funding is now becoming a vote loser for our mendacious government. Some serious questions are now being asked. Hence the one eyed tyrant trying to play the "Patriotic duty" card today. As if the treasonous EU loving B*stard even knows what patriotism and duty even means.
  14. What and lose there pensions and there knight hoods and the like :D
  15. What did Obama say " A government must follow the will of it's people" ha ha ha