Gun injuries soar as police experts blast themselves!

#1
Its not only 'Brazilians' who should fear an armed P.C Plod,so a 2 week course makes them an 'expert'?
'The number of armed police officers accidentally shooting themselves – and other colleagues – has soared in the past five years.
Now, nearly half of all injuries caused by police shootings are the result of officers blasting themselves or a colleague, often during bungled training and demonstrations.'
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#2
What Plod need to do is recruit in some SASC and Skillies.

Or put some rozzers on the Skilly course. A copper with crossed rifles over his stripes? :p
 

ugly

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#3
It shouldnt astonish me but it does, supposedly intelligent persons with the power of arrest seem unable to adjust the basic safety concepts needed when issued with firearms. I grew up with guns and still shoot many different rifles and shotguns on an almost daily basis. 2 weeks is pathetic, perhaps they should nbe made to carry PCSO level firearms ie plastic and bright blue until they have had some time in. It took the yanks many years of accidental shootings to realise that just because you live in the wild west two weeks SAA doesnt make you into Bruce Willis or Dirty Harry.
Still as long as no one is seriously hurt we can continue to titter at these and perhaps one day run a thread on it. I'm sure the plod blogs wont!
 
#5
You can't educate PORK!

Bad Skills, or is it the educated idiots with degee's in Ciminology, you know, those with NO Common Sense how are now been given GUNS?
 
#6
we should get Hardmong123 to train them up.. hes a weapons and firearms guru of the highest order.. I'd love to see the rozzers running round with a mighty fierce G22 in the shoulder.....................
 
#7
How officers have been wounded

Recent accidents involving police firearms include:

• A civilian control room operator was shot in the abdomen during a firearms awareness course in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, last year. A Thames Valley Police firearms officer had been showing staff his Glock pistol, unaware it was loaded.

• A Sussex police officer accidentally shot a 48-year-old PC in the body at the range at Gatwick police station in August 2007. Body armour saved him from serious injury.

• A trainee firearms officer shot a Met instructor in the thigh as he was setting up a target in a mock-up of a night-time alley in 2003.

• A diplomatic protection officer in Central London shot himself in the leg getting into a car in September 2007.

• A firearms officer from West Mercia Police shot himself in the leg and foot in January 2006 after his gun became caught in his clothing.

• An airport security officer from the Met shot the top of his thumb off when he put it in front of his MP5 sub-machine gun during training in 2005.[/quote]


how in the name of sweet holly willoughby did they actually do all of the above
 
#8
Maybe a spell in the Cadets would raise their game a bit :wink:
 
#9
Pure comedy,

Have you seen the kit the swines carry?

No 1950's Browning for Mr Plod he gets a nice Sig/Glock or anything else shiny!!

They must get issued Bad boys stylee shades aswell.

Same old same old...All the gear no idea.
 
#11
Sven said:
Doesn't bode well for the 'arm all police' arguement does it?
That was never a serious argument; the majority of police officers don't want to be Armed and, as serving police have stated on ARRSE, there are many of their brother officers who they would not trust with an ASP baton or CS Spray.
 
#12
In all fairness that is a lot of injuries and misshaps, but bear in mind that a lot of police officers routinely carry loaded weapons 24/7 365 days a year and, unfortunately, accidents do happen.

I've seen supposedly experienced SNCO's have ND's on a range and once had a recruit point her loaded SA80 at me when asking a question (no it wasn't will you stop pinching my Arrse!!) instead of keeping it pointed downrange.

But WW is right, there's a lot of coppers out there I wouldn't trust with a baton and spray let alone a firearm.
 
#13
The_Seagull said:
In all fairness that is a lot of injuries and misshaps, but bear in mind that a lot of police officers routinely carry loaded weapons 24/7 365 days a year and, unfortunately, accidents do happen.

I've seen supposedly experienced SNCO's have ND's on a range and once had a recruit point her loaded SA80 at me when asking a question (no it wasn't will you stop pinching my Arrse!!) instead of keeping it pointed downrange.

But WW is right, there's a lot of coppers out there I wouldn't trust with a baton and spray let alone a firearm.
Not a bad record given the time period; I bet the army beat this about 10:1!
 

ugly

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#14
The pointing a loaded weapon around is pish argument to be honest, its more important that the user is competent and knows the state of the weapon whether made safe or cocked. its not rocket science and sadly until those space cadets learn they will hopefully continue to thin out their own gene pool rather than the public one!
FFS how can you have blokes assaulting buildings and not point weapons at each other at some point!
 
#17
Unfortunately your average plod cannot tell one end of a firearm from the other. When I had the FLO (Firearms liason officer) visit he thought that 7.62 and .308 were two diffirent calibres. He did the same with 5.56 and .223 strangely enough. That would tell me that in this case he did not have sufficient background knowledge to be doing home visits.
 
#18
Am I correct in saying that the MOD Police have never had a negligent discharge or firearms accident?

That being despite the fact that all their officers are firearms trained, and they have a far higher level of day to day firearms use than civpol!
 
#20
labrat said:
Am I correct in saying that the MOD Police have never had a negligent discharge or firearms accident?

That being despite the fact that all their officers are firearms trained, and they have a far higher level of day to day firearms use than civpol!
I wonder how that compares with the CNC?
 

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