Gulf info Blackout

Looks like some still have comms, Blimey, they can make themselves rich men.........

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King" :)
 
Well as far as I am aware we were allowed to bring them out although people transitting through Marchwood (narrowly avoiding the nutty peace people)were told they couldn't by their units.  

I am also led to believe that your location can be triangulated if your mobile is switched on

Lots of mobiles on - big target. :-/

Now wouldn't it be nice if the same rules applied to our colonial brothers and sisters (way to hussle)

As for EMail - still got it here - for now. I take it back - cheers USA !! ;D
 

B_int

Swinger
:-*OK PTP I'll play nicely. But she's still a mong (no offence to those who suffer GENUINE learning difficulties)  ;)*
Lucy , despite you, my post has generated a sensible discussion and  that's all that was intended by it.
Please refrain from insulting me.
 

TABBER

Old-Salt
Its not a big issue, having your phone taken away aint gonna hurt.

I fully understand it following OPSEC. A good security system deals with possible threats/gaps rather than just occuring threats & problems.
 
Bint/Lucy..I am going to throw in some jelly and video this cat-fight for porn!

It is quite common on operations that the guys on the front line have mobiles/pagers taken off them and mail is sometimes proof-read and censored for security purposes.  Triangulated phone signals will not be a major issue.

One of the things that the MoD is worried about is families finding out about casualties before anyone has had the chance to notify the next of kin. A real issue is preventing families going out of their minds when the phone goes over to vmail or rings off when they only spoke to Tommy the day before. It may be that Tommy can't answer the phone for a whole number of reasons and is still alive and well, but it may be that he isn't. In a way, removing mobile phones from some troops is not only a way of ensuring that something is said that shouldn't be, but also to try and get round some of the issues around casualties and notifying the NoK. As we go more and more "real time" in our ability to communicate, the issues get more and more intricate. The simplest answer is to call in all of the mobiles out there rather than try and give the lads a set of rules for use and even more to get their heads around.
 

Chickidee

Swinger
Well done to those guys who snuck their mobiles out and are still using them.

If you can't have enough food or decent bog roll, at least you can SMS the missus to say goodnight.

Blacking-out is simply cruel on everybody. If you don't provide the chaps with links back home they're going to forget what they're fighting for!

That's my 2p worth anyway.

(Woopert - you can buy that stuff from mates in the Balkans - no need to film it yourself).
 
Chickidee

I wonder if you will still be congratulating those individuals who have 'snuck' their mobiles out and are still using them when the Iraqis pick up on a constantly emanating signal then put a couple of rounds of 155mm down on it?  Of course you will, after all saying good night to the missus and having a nice clean bot will be worth the risk - won't it? :mad:
 

Toptotty

Old-Salt
Luc,

In the immediate run up to an op, the "plan" gets briefed down to as many as is necessary.  The sum total is that even wee low-level chaps will have knowldege of tactically important stuff, even something as basic as a unit move and tmie is of high importance to an enemy.  

Moreover, the electronic signature that leakers give off is distinctive and the point made by Oracle is well stated.

TT

Now that the news hounds are all in place we'll get plenty of info, albeit dressed up as info-tainment.  Watch out for the blackout as things start to happen.
 

Exmarine

War Hero
The newspapers will/would try and pick up on every piece of title tattle without regard for the troops.

F##k em.

Soldiers complain, its part of the deal, newspapers would distort anything for a sell.

F##k em.

News blackout, good sense.

Chris
 

Toptotty

Old-Salt
Eagle,

Mobiles aint always the answer, and if certain trades can't do without them, they could be setting themselves up for a fall.  Mobile phones rely on a civilian infrastructure which may not be there when the rounds go down the range.

TT
 

Lucy

Old-Salt
Let me just reiterate that my opinion of the mobile situation has always been, that those who took them - Shouldn't Have!!!!! :mad:

Like someone mentioned earlier from the compassionate grounds alone (ie: an accident/death) it is totally innapropriate, let alone from the security and morale grounds. Lets be honest, Jo Bloggs isn't going to be too happy if he can't get a message back cause he's obeying orders, but Bill who is a blatant piss taker and has ignored orders can. Nough said eh?

By the way, partners/wives back here are still getting calls on the welfare packages and we are still getting post. The eblueys system is still being employed too!

So, we have all had long enough to get our heads around this, we all know what to expect roughly, lets just get the **** on with it and get the lads home sooner, rather than later.

To be honest though I am getting really fed up with people coming up to me telling me how anti- war they are and thinking that I am going to wish to hold a conversation about it! This is way to personal a situation for many of us, we know the people that could be killed,they are not a faceless mass, they're the father of our children, the men we sleep next to and the sons of mothers. Why don't people back off and give us a bit of space, think before they speak or something. And yes bint that goes for you too!  
 

B_int

Swinger
Lucy
I won't change what I post here to suit your mindset.
I do however understand the stress that you are under.
I got married 20 years ago on special license to my ex who's ship was going to be going to the Falklands at short notice (he got off the Sheffield shortly before she sailed and of course lost mates). He travelled to Portsmouth from Plymouth on the friday, we married on the Saturday, he returned to his ship on the Sunday and sailed on the Monday.
So I've been there, done that. End of.
 

Lucy

Old-Salt
I don't have a mindset - I have a reality check Bint. Stop posting me now, as you are really boring me. No, you don't have a clue by the way - not an iota of one. All I have to do is read your posts to establish that. Now, Goodbye and let the thread get on about it's natural course without our interference and my aversion to you. Take care, Lucy.
 

Toptotty

Old-Salt
Eagle,

Mobiles aint always the answer, and if certain trades can't do without them, they could be setting themselves up for a fall.  Mobile phones rely on a civilian infrastructure which may not be there when the rounds go down the range.

TT
 

Toptotty

Old-Salt
S*8t another double tap1 soz about the double post.  Hey luce, the anti-war tubes can't help themselves, they'd never do Jack.  I don't alwys agree with Mr B Liar, but we've gone too far now to retract.  let's get the dig over with and ooot of there.  

TT
 

B_int

Swinger
the anti-war tubes can't help themselves, they'd never do Jack. TT
On the contrary toptotty this 'tube'  :mad: would have had us FINISH the job 12 years ago.
Also I would not have allowed 17 british companies to supply madass with WMD.
Now it's happening let's get it over with.
 

TABBER

Old-Salt
Interesting point Eagle but I can't see comms being an issue this time round.
In other theaters the main problem was with infantry comms (e.g. 349) which made them resort to useing mobiles when out on patrols, this time many have been issued with the new motarolas as far as I know. Also it will not be a patrol/peacekeeping role this time, it will be in battle group formations.
 

Toptotty

Old-Salt
Dear Bint,

You have a good point, and I agree with the twelve years ago stuff.  The antiwar tubes was ageneralisation, no offence intended at thee.

;)

TT
 

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