Gulbuddin Hekmatyar - terrorist, freedom fighter or what?

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7081012.stm

Fighters loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a former mujahideen leader who is fighting the Kabul government independently from the Taleban, are known to be active in Baghlan.
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At least six members of the Afghan parliament were killed in the blast in the town of Baghlan. Other MPs are said to have been hurt.
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...a spokesman for the Taleban, who are assumed to be behind most attacks in Afghanistan, condemned the attack in a telephone interview with the Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press.
Who has made the explosion? Likely only Allah knows. But as for Gulbuddin Hekmatyar then is he a friend, a former friend or an enemy?

Btw, he was a prominent leader of anti-Soviet resistance.
 
#2
KGB_resident said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7081012.stm

Fighters loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a former mujahideen leader who is fighting the Kabul government independently from the Taleban, are known to be active in Baghlan.
...
At least six members of the Afghan parliament were killed in the blast in the town of Baghlan. Other MPs are said to have been hurt.
...
...a spokesman for the Taleban, who are assumed to be behind most attacks in Afghanistan, condemned the attack in a telephone interview with the Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press.
Who has made the explosion? Likely only Allah knows. But as for Gulbuddin Hekmatyar then is he friend, former friend or enemy?

Btw, he was a prominent leader of anti-Soviet resistance.
Well if he blows up commies he can't be all bad!

:D
 
#3
Hekmatyar is a seriously nasty little individual. His incompetence as a leader is legendary, as is his well documented penchant for torture, rape and murder.

It is a pity that the Russians didn't kill him.
 
#4
He was I think favoured by the Pakistanis during the Soviet's war, and that's why he got also American support during that period.
 
#5
Dread said:
Hekmatyar is a seriously nasty little individual. His incompetence as a leader is legendary, as is his well documented penchant for torture, rape and murder.

It is a pity that the Russians didn't kill him.
It was a very difficult task because

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekmatyar

During the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Hekmatyar received millions of dollars from the CIA...
So mr.Hekmatyar had a lot of weapons, exellent hideouts.

Reagan was quoted as calling him and other Afghan leaders "the moral equivalent of the founding fathers.
Of course such a beacon of democracy was backed from Washington.

By the most conservative estimates, $600 million [in aid from America] went to the Hizb party, ... Hekmatyar's party had the dubious distinction of never winning a significant battle during the war, training a variety of militant Islamists from around the world, killing significant numbers of mujahideen from other parties, and taking a virulently anti-Western line. In addition to hundreds of millions of dollars of American aid, Hekmatyar also received the lion's share of aid from the Saudis.
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After September 11, 2001 Hekmatyar, who had "worked closely" with bin Laden in early 1990s,[15] declared his opposition to the US campaign in Afghanistan and criticized Pakistan for assisting the United States. After the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and the fall of the Taliban, Hekmatyar rejected the U.N.-brokered accord of December 5, 2001 negotiated in Germany as a U.S.-imposed government for Afghanistan.
According to Hekmatyar even the Iranians are American servants.

In May 2006, he released a video to Al Jazeera in which he accused Iran of backing the US in the Afghan conflict and said he was ready to fight alongside Osama bin Laden and blamed the ongoing conflicts in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan on US interference.
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In December 2006, a video was released in Pakistan, where Gulbuddin Hekmatyar claimed "the fate Soviet Union faced is awaiting America as well."
How it was possible that the USA supported and funded such a nutter? His views were well known.



Typical fre... err terrorist.
 
#8
That was before the Yanks realised (or pretended that they did know) that Pakistan's ISI was a vipers nest of religeous nutjobs that made OBL look like a liberal!
 
#9
But they were killing communists so that was all that mattered .Giving the ussr its own vietnam was the whole point of the cia backing the muji and it worked .
 
#10
Anyone who knowingly and with purpose kills innocent people are terrorists.
 
#11
That was a short term planning, which turned against the CIA in the end (Bin Laden). The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a short term strategy that turns against the Americans every time.
 
#12
Dread said:
Hekmatyar is a seriously nasty little individual. His incompetence as a leader is legendary, as is his well documented penchant for torture, rape and murder.

It is a pity that the Russians didn't kill him.
Now GH is a remarkably competent survivor in a spectacularly rough field. He makes Ceasre Borgia look like an ingenuine having turnedcoat and backstabbed out of trouble many a time. He's even slipped Islamabad's very tight leash occasionally. His reputation for incompetence is more about the Peter Principle at work. He's a Zealot with all that's breeds weaknesses and probably should never have been promoted above company commander.

The torture, rape and murder are part of the warlord game. But GH is more the kind of old skool guy who throws acid at that unveiled. Mass casualty martyrdom operations have really not been his style.

Odd that this big one hits just a decent logistical gap after the BB hit. Imported talent being expended?
 
#13
woody said:
But they were killing communists so that was all that mattered .Giving the ussr its own vietnam was the whole point of the cia backing the muji and it worked .
.....to backfire!

For the want of a nail........

Just a thought!
 
#14
Regardless of the cause he was fighting for, he tainted it by murder and other crimes.

Terrorist. Should be tracked down and killed.
 
#16
I had some staff from Afghanistan and they regarded GH as a gangster. They all thought that he was behind the murder of Massood (spelling?) another Alliance leader who was murdered.
 
#18
The West wanted to fight the USSR by proxy in Afghanistan. They could only do so through the auspices of the Pakistani ISI who favoured Hekmatyar. :(

To say it was a short term strategy is with the benifit of hindsight; no-one could forsee the collapse of the USSR or the attendant rise of Islamism (violent or not). It was not a short term strategy per se, it was the only strategy (contain and confront communism). :)

Now the 2001/2 Coalition strategy of backing resident warlords who were against the Taleban & AQ or who were prepared to go against them is more of a short term strategy with no thought as the consequences of trying to nation build with such a disparate crew of morally reprehensible thugs at the helm. :x

As for Hekmatyar; public execution at the Kabul football stadium. :D :D
 
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