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Guards Officer - are the rumours correct?

#1
Hi,
I am interested in joining the infantry as an officer. Guards are quite high on my list, but I am unsure on a few matters.

Are the days gone when someone required a second income in order to be able to get by in the mess. If a second income is unavailable, will I be missing out on much of mess enjoyment.

Secondly - are there still height restrictions - being a wee lil bugger, will the Grenadiers be rejecting my application for a membership badge?

Many thanks
 

FBW

Old-Salt
#2
ref income yes you need one

ref height, unfortunatley there not allowed to discriminate any more :roll:

PM me for any more info
 
#3
Darling

You should only be concerned if you have

a. Not been to a "good school" or
b. Are unfortunate enough to have no family connections with the regiment of your choice.

If by some mistake you have a degree or 2-3 GCSE "A" then you will find that opting for a Corps will probably do more to meet your expectations.

XXXXX
 
#5
MM, just a word of advice. I spent some time working in Officer Recrutiment for an Infantry Regiment and I think I could probable put you in the right direction. As with all advice, take it or leave it.

Your best bet would be to approach the Army Careers Advisor (Officer) at your local AFCO. They will give you straight advice to whatever questions you have. Do not think that they are bone questions. The only bone queston is the one that you did not ask.

The ACA(O) will advise you where he suspects that you will be best placed. If you are set to join the Inf, then he will give you the best guide to which Regiment you should look at. It is best to have a good look at the Army as a whole, not just the Inf.

You will get to visit a number of units. You are then in the best position to make a decision. You also will get an opportunity to visit while at RMAS.

The Army is actually very good at giving you all the information you require to make a decent choice when joining. Don't rush into it, and when you visit a unit, think to yourself "can I see myself serving with these men/women, does this regiment suit me?"

I hope this gives you a bit of a guide.

:D
 
#6
netleynirse said:
Darling

You should only be concerned if you have

a. Not been to a "good school" or
b. Are unfortunate enough to have no family connections with the regiment of your choice.

If by some mistake you have a degree or 2-3 GCSE "A" then you will find that opting for a Corps will probably do more to meet your expectations.

XXXXX
fcuk off nn. How dare you answer a serious question with your bone 'advice'. You arent Eric Joyce by any chance?
 
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#8
musicalmarvin said:
Hi,
I am interested in joining the infantry as an officer. Guards are quite high on my list, but I am unsure on a few matters.

Are the days gone when someone required a second income in order to be able to get by in the mess. If a second income is unavailable, will I be missing out on much of mess enjoyment.

Secondly - are there still height restrictions - being a wee lil bugger, will the Grenadiers be rejecting my application for a membership badge?

Many thanks
The answer to both questions is no. You don't need a second income and there are no height restrictions that I'm aware of. It is much the same as joining any other regiment or corps except that you would still, I believe, face the hurdle of Brigade Squad.
 
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#10
Ford_Prefect said:
The way I heard it is that there are 5x Inf places per Sandhurst intake!
You heard bollox then, there were at least that many infanteers in my platoon.
 
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#12
Ford_Prefect said:
So you're in third term? Post week 22? So you can state unequivocally that this isn't the case in 1st / 2nd term?
Wind your fcuking neck in, crow.
 
#15
Well that was a mature response Ford_Perfect but I'd suggest you think a bit harder about what you're saying.

I'm in no way fully clued up about the situation of regular Sandhurst but having spoken to the previously regular officers, currently serving ones (in the course of my TA time) and a few career liason types I'd say Chickenpunk is correct and you're wrong.

Take a moment to think now. With approx 270 cadets (1) starting each course how could the Infantry, which makes up a very large portion of the army, be only taking 5 officer cadets per intake?

I'm almost certain they won't be all being grabbed by the Signals, RE or the RLC. Nor will they be taken by the Cavalry.

Of course one must adjust for the fact there are women on each course but even with a 50/50 split (not very likely from what I gather) that would mean 135 male officer cadets. There for to say that one of the largest parts of the army is only going to be taking less than 4% of an intake is quite a rediculous statement.

Some food for thought and hopefully common sense :)

(1) - Army Officers Career guide supported by http://www.atra.mod.uk/atra/rmas/courses/structure.htm
 
#16
hackle said:
[fcuk off nn. How dare you answer a serious question with your bone 'advice'. You arent Eric Joyce by any chance?
Dearest Hackle

As ever your objectivity shines through the mire on these thread.

If you ever erred towards the study of contemporary military affairs, you would have reallised that my post had paraphrased a recent, frank and off-the-record lunchtime talk by a certain General Officer Commanding.

Fortunately the talk was at a well respected institution and he was quickly able to get back to his office without being missed, or compromising his anonymity.

Perhaps you need to get out a bit more sweetie??

XXX
 
#17
Might I suggest no one respond to this obvious attempt at gaining validity and more importantly trying to raise the ire of the members of this board.

The lady, using the term loosely, should not be responded to otherwise she will only take root further in another thread.
 
#18
Well this thread is getting a bit catty so I'll continue in that vein........

I'm in no way fully clued up about the situation of regular Sandhurst
.............well I'll stop you there, its Sunday shouldn't you be at the drill hall?

When I stated that I believed that there were only 5 places per Sandhurst intake for the Infantry it was based on a conversation I had had with someone involved in Officer recruiting. Whilst it would sound pretty far fetched, when you consider that there have been no announcements of redundancy the only way to address the huge numbers of Plt Comds that these Regts will have is by restricting numbers at the recruitment stage.

I would therefore be interested to hear from somebody who knows SOMETHING about the CURRENT situation instead of somebody just gobbing off about how many people commissioned into the Infantry in their Plt X number of years ago!
 

CGS

War Hero
Moderator
#19
Right...

Happy New year all! Just back from the first of a couple of Winter jollies ant thought I'd just check on the parish!

Now then, Ford and Chicken, we will have none of your juvenile bickering please. Remember that this is the Mess, and we abide by the general rules and social customs as upheld in any Officers' Mess!

As for the initial RFI:

Marvin, although made in a potentially off-hand manner, Netleynirse has a couple of valid points. Namely that in order to join a Guards outfit you don't need a private income anymore, but connections with a regiment (through family for example) go a long way to being accepted. As with all Arms, there will be a need for them to select you as much as you want to join them.

As for the other point about the number of Infantry Officers being trained, one just needs to look at the overall requirements of the service. Suddenly halting the training and recruitment of what amounts to the largest sector of Army personnel (officer-wise) is not likely to happen. The consequences would be close to dire.
 
#20
Then I must ask exactly where you believe the rest of an intake to be referred to? Considering those in the know have stated elsewhere that CC are full where exactly do you believe they may be sent instead?

I did however present you with a well reasoned argument as to why you may be wrong and was in no way catty. There for I would appreciate the same courtousy in return.
 

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