GSDI

#1
One of our lads are going on the GSDI course soon. Apparently there is a driving assessment on first day. Anyone confirm what this entails? I know they convert you to SV on it but what happens if you are already SV converted?
Cheers in advance.
 
#2
Bump
Now its monday, anyone help with above?
 
#3
The whole course is now run on the SV all the TP's and teachbacks will be carried out on the SV (both 6 & 9 Tonne). Sorry don't know about the driving assement but if the DLAI course is anything to go by it won't be anything to get worried about.
 
#4
raggyavn said:
The whole course is now run on the SV so it won't matter, all the TP's and teachbacks will be carried out on the SV (both 6 & 9 Tonne). Sorry don't know about the driving assement but if the DLAI course is anything to go by it won't be anything to get worried about.
Cheers, i managed to get hold of the Adv Trg Wing and they said its a on-road assessment and you also get SV trained......
Instr "anyone driven these before?"
CH "mmmmm, a little bit"!!
 
#5
yeh just drove 9T SV at catterick driver training area last weekend, all i say is point and drive as easy as that, goes up and down all the hills i threw at it all fully loaded too very good bit of kit so far,

as to GSDI course well i wouldnt hold yeh breath know how to set up a course even when u have finished! all they do is throw a disk at yeh and say get on with it when u get back to unit!!! took me afew attempts and some guide advice from old GSDI's to point me in the right direction!
 
#6
G_O_L_D said:
yeh just drove 9T SV at catterick driver training area last weekend, all i say is point and drive as easy as that, goes up and down all the hills i threw at it all fully loaded too very good bit of kit so far,!
I think CH already knows that much, if you read some of his other 1214 posts you would be able to work out why.

G_O_L_D said:
as to GSDI course well i wouldnt hold yeh breath know how to set up a course even when u have finished! all they do is throw a disk at yeh and say get on with it when u get back to unit!!! took me afew attempts and some guide advice from old GSDI's to point me in the right direction!
"All they do is throw you a CD and say get on with it"

As much as I dislike some of the instructors in Egoworld (Aka Advanced Training Wing) I know that simply isn't true. All I can say is, you get as much out of the course as you put in. You obviously put as much effort into your course as you put punctuation into your post.
 
#7
Im always up for learning new stuff so i will take anything told to me about SV as increased knowledge, but its true my time and experience in SV is pretty good to say the least.

But SV isnt that good that you can just point it up a hill and it will go up. Canada earlier this year proved that. Well used x-country courses are fine for showing off but thick clogging mud after the worse rainfall for a few years soon stopped a lot of SV during MM1 and 2. Some reasons were due to Training and some due to tyre choice.
 
#8
CH512O said:
Im always up for learning new stuff so i will take anything told to me about SV as increased knowledge, but its true my time and experience in SV is pretty good to say the least.

But SV isnt that good that you can just point it up a hill and it will go up. Canada earlier this year proved that. Well used x-country courses are fine for showing off but thick clogging mud after the worse rainfall for a few years soon stopped a lot of SV during MM1 and 2. Some reasons were due to Training and some due to tyre choice.
never mind all that troggie stuff answer your firkin PM's
 
#9
BPS666 said:
CH512O said:
Im always up for learning new stuff so i will take anything told to me about SV as increased knowledge, but its true my time and experience in SV is pretty good to say the least.

But SV isnt that good that you can just point it up a hill and it will go up. Canada earlier this year proved that. Well used x-country courses are fine for showing off but thick clogging mud after the worse rainfall for a few years soon stopped a lot of SV during MM1 and 2. Some reasons were due to Training and some due to tyre choice.
never mind all that troggie stuff answer your firkin PM's
send them first and ill answer them.......brother of Alf!!!! :wink:
 
#10
CH512O said:
Im always up for learning new stuff so i will take anything told to me about SV as increased knowledge..............
Don't expect to increase your knowledge base after a visit to ATW. In fact the knowledge will all be flowing the other way :)

CH512O said:
But SV isnt that good that you can just point it up a hill and it will go up. Canada earlier this year proved that. Well used x-country courses are fine for showing off but thick clogging mud after the worse rainfall for a few years soon stopped a lot of SV during MM1 and 2. Some reasons were due to Training and some due to tyre choice.
You mean you get a tyre choice, is it like F1?
 
#11
The tyres fitted to SV are Goodyears that are fine for general usage. Trouble is since they have now been used in areas other than well driven X Country Trials areas they have been found not to dissipate sticky mud. This is due to the grip profile etc. Michelin supply the tyre for the SV(R) which having wider spaces between the knobbly bits, works better in mud. Trouble is the tyre sizes on SV(R) are bigger.
Without going into too much detail, i think the Michelins are available but dont quote me on this, for specific ops or tasks.
"normal" mud is fine for the Goodyears but ill confirm but there will be further direction in lowering tyre pressures, fitting snow chains (they work in mud as well!) and good route recce's. If you look in the SV Handbook, it mentions tyre pressures and chains anyway.
Admittedly when i went out to BATUS to see what the problems were, i was skeptical about SV getting stuck. 15mins into my fact finding drive and i was in a UST, up to its axles in mud....stuck!!
 
#12
CH512O said:
The tyres fitted to SV are Goodyears that are fine for general usage. Trouble is since they have now been used in areas other than well driven X Country Trials areas they have been found not to dissipate sticky mud. This is due to the grip profile etc. Michelin supply the tyre for the SV(R) which having wider spaces between the knobbly bits, works better in mud. Trouble is the tyre sizes on SV(R) are bigger.
Without going into too much detail, i think the Michelins are available but dont quote me on this, for specific ops or tasks.
"normal" mud is fine for the Goodyears but ill confirm but there will be further direction in lowering tyre pressures, fitting snow chains (they work in mud as well!) and good route recce's. If you look in the SV Handbook, it mentions tyre pressures and chains anyway.
Admittedly when i went out to BATUS to see what the problems were, i was skeptical about SV getting stuck. 15mins into my fact finding drive and i was in a UST, up to its axles in mud....stuck!!
Exactly the same sketch on the Goldgrun in Paderborn last year, the MAN team from UK instructing us could'nt believe how the wagons just sank!
 
#13
bohs_man said:
CH512O said:
The tyres fitted to SV are Goodyears that are fine for general usage. Trouble is since they have now been used in areas other than well driven X Country Trials areas they have been found not to dissipate sticky mud. This is due to the grip profile etc. Michelin supply the tyre for the SV(R) which having wider spaces between the knobbly bits, works better in mud. Trouble is the tyre sizes on SV(R) are bigger.
Without going into too much detail, i think the Michelins are available but dont quote me on this, for specific ops or tasks.
"normal" mud is fine for the Goodyears but ill confirm but there will be further direction in lowering tyre pressures, fitting snow chains (they work in mud as well!) and good route recce's. If you look in the SV Handbook, it mentions tyre pressures and chains anyway.
Admittedly when i went out to BATUS to see what the problems were, i was skeptical about SV getting stuck. 15mins into my fact finding drive and i was in a UST, up to its axles in mud....stuck!!
Exactly the same sketch on the Goldgrun in Paderborn last year, the MAN team from UK instructing us could'nt believe how the wagons just sank!
I think you may mean VT, who have the contract for initial training of SV.
Dont get me wrong, SV is very good x-country and the tyre situation never reared its head in the trials. But you cant replicate every bit of terrain (read mud type!). Like i said the fitted tyres are fine, just look at the terrain and if in doubt, get out!!!
 
#14
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CH512O said:
bohs_man said:
CH512O said:
The tyres fitted to SV are Goodyears that are fine for general usage. Trouble is since they have now been used in areas other than well driven X Country Trials areas they have been found not to dissipate sticky mud. This is due to the grip profile etc. Michelin supply the tyre for the SV(R) which having wider spaces between the knobbly bits, works better in mud. Trouble is the tyre sizes on SV(R) are bigger.
Without going into too much detail, i think the Michelins are available but dont quote me on this, for specific ops or tasks.
"normal" mud is fine for the Goodyears but ill confirm but there will be further direction in lowering tyre pressures, fitting snow chains (they work in mud as well!) and good route recce's. If you look in the SV Handbook, it mentions tyre pressures and chains anyway.
Admittedly when i went out to BATUS to see what the problems were, i was skeptical about SV getting stuck. 15mins into my fact finding drive and i was in a UST, up to its axles in mud....stuck!!
Exactly the same sketch on the Goldgrun in Paderborn last year, the MAN team from UK instructing us could'nt believe how the wagons just sank!
I think you may mean VT, who have the contract for initial training of SV.
Dont get me wrong, SV is very good x-country and the tyre situation never reared its head in the trials. But you cant replicate every bit of terrain (read mud type!). Like i said the fitted tyres are fine, just look at the terrain and if in doubt, get out!!!
Yep, you are correct, Vosper trained us up. It was'nt their fault as that place has a particulary horrible type of mud and it's own weather system!
Overall though impressed with the wagons! :D
 
#15
raggyavn said:
As much as I dislike some of the instructors in Egoworld (Aka Advanced Training Wing) I know that simply isn't true. All I can say is, you get as much out of the course as you put in. You obviously put as much effort into your course as you put punctuation into your post.
Didnt relise Defence Writing was being tested here.........crumbs must get it sorted! I only saying what my experiance was on the course 3 years ago, as i am instructor by trade! i put all effort in to all my courses, i did put in a large end of course letter in at the end of my course and the civvi DST instructors aggreed with me on this, but they said they where tied up with red tape to do owt about it! which is understandable......i just hope things have changed by now and the new people going through have a successful and better course now.
 
#16
As im on the course now ill tread carefully!!!
The instructors are sorted, no dramas there. And im not just saying that. But some of the content may be a bit out of date, i do blame who trained them and maybe they being out of the loop in updates. By way, im going on about SV as thats what is concentrated on, on the GSDI course.
But what we have done so far is ok, just a shame that what Leconsfield class as x-country is a little different from what i call it!!
 
#17
CH512O said:
...... just a shame that what Leconsfield class as x-country is a little different from what i call it!!
CH can you expand on that, do you mean the X country circuit or the course content.
 
#18
raggyavn said:
CH512O said:
...... just a shame that what Leconsfield class as x-country is a little different from what i call it!!
CH can you expand on that, do you mean the X country circuit or the course content.
Driffield is not x-country. Its hardened tracks with some deep puddles. Yes there are some steep slopes, good enough to do stall starts but thats it.
Its too clinical, doesnt test SV, but then im sure its not meant to test, too hard, the students. But i could go round that in just 4 wheel drive and most probably 2, definitly not low range which i did today. Like i said, nothing against the instructors, just the facility.
 
#19
raggyavn said:
CH512O said:
...... just a shame that what Leconsfield class as x-country is a little different from what i call it!!
CH can you expand on that, do you mean the X country circuit or the course content.
I took 9T SV fully laden, cross country in catterick driver training area, 2 weeks ago down the old pit area one with three hills and horseshoe, and it made mince meat of all hills up and down. that it was snowing too!! well chuffed!!
 
#20
I agree with what you are saying about Driffield, but the problem is this facility is used for 50 weeks a years. If it where a “real” X country circuit, with the amount of use it gets. It would soon become unusable to all but tracked vehicles for most of the year. Don’t forget you are only being taught/ will teach the principles; the real test comes when the students get out onto areas like BATUS & Sennelager and have to put the theory into practice.

I take it you’ve not being out on the Leconfield X country course yet because that’s even more sterile.

P.S It will go round in high ratio with all the switches off
 
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