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Groundhog day: if you see the postman, run

#1
From the MoD website today:
(part of: http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/statement_sofs_17jun04.htm)

As part of the roulement from 1 Mechanised Brigade to 4 Armoured Brigade, and in line with our policy of employing the reserves as an integral component of the Armed Forces, we shall shortly begin mobilising a further tranche of approximately 750 Reservists to support operations in Iraq, with a view to deployment from mid October onwards. This is a smaller deployment than previously required for Op TELIC. We currently have some 1,400 Army Reservists carrying out a range of activities including medical support, force protection duties and providing individual reinforcements to units. We anticipate that most of these tasks will continue but the reduction in the number of individual reinforcements required and the replacement of the Reserve Field Hospital with one staffed by Regular soldiers will reduce the total Reserve requirement. These changes mean that the number of Army Reservists in theatre will drop to about 1,050 at the start of the roulement (about 13 percent of the land component) and then further reduce to about 750 over the following months.

We aim to issue the call-out notices in two tranches on 23 July and 27 August and begin deployment in mid October. Reservist personnel will receive at least 21 days' notice. Mobilisation will be followed by a period of individual, pre-deployment and collective training, integration into receiving units, and then a short period of pre-deployment leave. The majority of those called-out can expect a deployed tour of six months and a total period of mobilisation, including post-tour leave, of about nine months, though for a few it may be longer.

Between now and 23 July we aim to identify for selection as accurately as possible those Reservists who are believed to be fit and available for deployment. As is customary, to ensure that we successfully mobilise the required number, we will need to issue a greater number of call-out notices than the actual requirement.
 
#2
:lol: already been cant go again . though worrying about next may when they want a coy from our battlion to go out .
just got my mfo box back so will mostly be eating mres under the glow of cylumes and wondering why i bothered to bring so many of them back :?:
 
#3
"Already been, can't go again."

Hah!

You're next on the list! :twisted:
 
#6
You can be called up fotr 1 yr...........yes 12 months of service in every 3 yrs. If you want to run and hide and avoid your contractual obligations then do us all a favour and feck off and stop stealing taxpayers money you thieving cnut.
 
#9
demobbed said:
What about people who have just joined the TA? Transfered from the Regular Reserve?
You're not liable (I'm sure!) if you're still going through the recruiting process; if you've transferred then I guess you're not that though, so yes looks like you might become another VICTIM.

I have in my hand a piece of paper... that says I'm 'safe' for another 2 years. Hmmm... it's headed and everything... do you think it's worth anything? A laugh perhaps?
 
#10
msr said:
SoftPawn said:
msr said:
Although that's not entirely accurate...
In what respect...
Can't find the thread now, it was posted last year. Basically the article implies she had less training than she really had, and that the TA training was far less than the regs. With respect, I got the impression the regs hadn't had much more training for the peacekeeping either! Although some individuals had experience in other theaters.
 
#11
Heavens, I thought you were going to say that she hadn't handed her kit in after all....

msr
 
#12
I don't know if this has been covered before (probably) but for many in the TA we got the impression (up to 18 months ago) that we would be called on for 'real' emergencies. Not called away from our jobs (and therefore letting our 'fulltime' mates & employers down) because the govt can't add up properly the number of soldiers they've got before committing them (and kudos to the regs here for coping with so much op time). Not that I minded then, but I'll be hacked off if I get called up again in the next year, and let my employer down again.

The second shock is to find out that in fact the real army is as badly organised as the part timers :p ; ie wrong kit, not enough ammo, etc. I know that''s somewhat unfair on the guys trying to do the organising (moving tens of thousands of people & kit about is not easy) but still...
 
#13
msr said:
Heavens, I thought you were going to say that she hadn't handed her kit in after all....
I am still surprised at how many folks I deployed with are still part-timing, despite the cr*p! I guess we're still willing to do the job again, but too often is not on.
 
#14
Letterwritingman said:
You can be called up fotr 1 yr...........yes 12 months of service in every 3 yrs. If you want to run and hide and avoid your contractual obligations then do us all a favour and feck off and stop stealing taxpayers money you thieving cnut.
Although it would be interesting to find out whether or not the implications were actually spelled out to you on joining - rather than the half truths and evasions that used to be disseminated.
 
#15
Policy in our unit is now to tell people when they join that being called up is a probability rather than a possibility. That lessens the shock when the postman brings the good news.

Some freaks are joining because they want to be called up. :roll:

No instances yet of cheeky youngsters lying about their age to get in. Give it time!

His Holiness the Duke of Westminster said - over pie and chips in my "Death Star" the other day - that his aim is to ensure that his TA puppies get called up once every FIVE years, at most. But obviously that is his own preference rather than something that would bind T Blair.

Like the ropes that bind you to the shiny steel table beneath my "laser", eh, Tony?
 
#16
One_of_the_strange said:
Letterwritingman said:
You can be called up fotr 1 yr...........yes 12 months of service in every 3 yrs. If you want to run and hide and avoid your contractual obligations then do us all a favour and feck off and stop stealing taxpayers money you thieving cnut.
Although it would be interesting to find out whether or not the implications were actually spelled out to you on joining - rather than the half truths and evasions that used to be disseminated.
All my potential recruitsare told in no uncertain terms that the likely hood of going on Ops , somewhere in the world with the Regulars is a Certainty, all are asked if they are prepared to do it or if they have ant reservations, this is done on the initial interview and then during Phase 1 training,most if not all have said that is the reason they are joining.
8)
 
#17
Letterwritingman said:
You can be called up fotr 1 yr...........yes 12 months of service in every 3 yrs. If you want to run and hide and avoid your contractual obligations then do us all a favour and feck off and stop stealing taxpayers money you thieving cnut.
Excellent ...

If everything goes according to my evil plans, the whole of the TA will, as my colleague Letterwritingman suggests, all feck off when they find themselves called up twice in a couple of years.

That way, the British Army will find itself very, very streamlined. Lacking in its current mojo. Small and cuddly: just like you, Mini-Me.

And not able to do very much except bite people in the bollox.
 
#18
What are theese cnuts greetin about.
Twenty odd years done, and the only place I seen was NI.
I only wish I had 7-8 medals to show for it.
Stoip whingin and do the fcukin job you were trained to do. :x :x :x :x :x
 
#19
Dr Evil said:
Letterwritingman said:
You can be called up fotr 1 yr...........yes 12 months of service in every 3 yrs. If you want to run and hide and avoid your contractual obligations then do us all a favour and feck off and stop stealing taxpayers money you thieving cnut.
Excellent ...

If everything goes according to my evil plans, the whole of the TA will, as my colleague Letterwritingman suggests, all feck off when they find themselves called up twice in a couple of years.

That way, the British Army will find itself very, very streamlined. Lacking in its current mojo. Small and cuddly: just like you, Mini-Me.

And not able to do very much except bite people in the bollox.
I think it's a little more complex than that. I suspect that the flow of young men into the TA will not be affected at all, maybe even increased. They'll do a four year stint which includes one Op tour - and then leave, having done what they wanted to. Careers, family etc will then tend to force them to leave anyway. So if all you want is brand new private soldiers in teeth arms then you'll be OK.

If however you want JNCOs and SNCOs and effective trained soldiers from the various Corps then I think you'll soon be SOL.
 
#20
Kookullin said:
As part of the roulement from 1 Mechanised Brigade to 4 Armoured Brigade, and in line with our policy of employing the reserves as an integral component of the Armed Forces, we shall shortly begin mobilising a further tranche of approximately 750 Reservists to support operations in Iraq, with a view to deployment from mid October onwards.

We aim to issue the call-out notices in two tranches on 23 July and 27 August and begin deployment in mid October.
Anyone else just be warned off for this? My wife is never gonna forgive me.......
 

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