Grey Squirrelsand the extermination thereof

OldSnowy

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#1
Gents -

Having seen this:
First case of it's kind: Man told to pay £1,500 after being found guilty of drowning a squirrel | Mail Online

I am concerned. I shoot squirrels, and have caught a few in a catch-them-alive trap (which I then shot, but more easily...). I 've never thought of drowning them, but would do it if I ever ran out of blunt instruments, boots, bricks, etc. - in other words, it's unlikely.

My question to the learned masses of ARRSE shooters and outdoors types is - can I keep on killing grey squirrels, as long as I don't drown 'em? I consider them vermin that eat my fruit and veg, as well as
upsetting more deserving wildlife. What else can I kill? Currently I cull the wood pigeon, magpie, jay, squirrel and rat populations (unable to get the bloody heron - as yet).

Oh, and sorry it's in the Daily Hate - can't be helped.
 
#3
I was under the understanding, that grey squirrels were to be treated as vermin because of the demise of the indiginous red squirrel. I am sure I read somewhere a few years back, that the killing of grey squirrels was advocated/promoted by some authority or other (can't remember which one, might be National Trust or Forestry Commission).

It may be the method used that has incurred the fine. Having said that, my friends horse drowns them regularly, as it treats them as if they were rats!

Edited to add:

One of the comments on the article makes a very good point, in that once captured, it's illegal to release the grey squirrel back into the wild under the Countryside and Wildlife Act 1981, as they are a non-native species. Also, the Forestry Commission advises to stick them in a sack and wack the with a stick!
 
#4
I am of the understanding that grey squirrels along with signal crayfish are classed as vermin and as they are an introduced species they cannot be re-released in to the countryside once caught. It was probably more the method as to the killing of the squirrel as there is a chap in Co Durham/Northumbria who is getting paid by HM Gov to kill the bloody things. They are also rather tasty as well.
 

Ravers

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I am of the understanding that grey squirrels along with signal crayfish are classed as vermin and as they are an introduced species they cannot be re-released in to the countryside once caught. It was probably more the method as to the killing of the squirrel as there is a chap in Co Durham/Northumbria who is getting paid by HM Gov to kill the bloody things. They are also rather tasty as well.
Are you the one on the left or right?

 
#6
There's no problem with killing them. Perfectly lawful. The prosecution was for causing "Unnecessary suffering" by drowning it. A trapped squirrel is a difficult thing to catch so that you can kill it which is why people drown them. Shooting with an air rifle to the back of the head is favourite but failing that a VERY firm blow to the back of the head will do it. I'd then recommend cutting its throat because the buggers come round after even very hard blows in my experience. Or just gut it and take it home for tea. They are very tasty.
 
#7
When I used to trap mink,this was the standard method of dispatching them.I certainly would not have put even a gloved hand into the trap to extract the vicious little beast.

You'll be telling me that you can't drown kittens anymore next !!
 
#8
Are you the one on the left or right?

The one on thy left, the one on the right is my grandad.. no dad, hang on uncle or could be brother. Hot dang I can never remember.
 
#9
The one on thy left, the one on the right is my grandad.. no dad, hang on uncle or could be brother. Hot dang I can never remember.
You told me that was your sister!
 
#10
I normally set them on fire before relasing them to much hilarity. Drowning is usually saved for cats, whilst wacking them on the back of the head I keep for the badgers, after the terriers have had their way with them.
 
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I normally set them on fire before relasing them to much hilarity. Drowning is usually saved for cats, whilst wacking them on the back of the head I keep for the badgers, after the terriers have had their way with them.
Sure you do.
 
#14
FFS, the RSPCA wants a red hot poker shoved up its collective arse! GREY squirrels are VERMIN, they have all but eradicated the native red squirrel, they predate on birds eggs & fledglings and these stupid ******* handwringers WASTE god knows how much time "investigating" this so called offense and take some poor sod to court wasting even more time, *******!
They should concentrate on investigating real abuse on animals such as the scum who breed & keep dogs for fighting/guarding drug establishments etc, but of course that would involve them possibly being threatened by serious violence at the thugs hands, so they take the easy route & prosecute "law abiding citizens" for nonsense offences such as this! ******* gutless idiots!
When I lived in Henley with my ex g/f, we had a garden with a few adjacent trees and our birdfeeders were regularly invaded by these rats with bushy tails, The answer, a .177 Weirauch air rifle, my 12 bore would have disturbed the neighbours :) ! The tally was over 100 in 5 years, we had one complaint in that time, from an "anthropomorphic" middle aged female teacher who worried that mrs squirrel had just raised her family in her garden, stupid cow my ex g/f soon put her straight!
 
#15
Hypothetical question - say if one was to whack a gray vermin with a slug-pistol, that only stunned it, and to find it coming too on reaching to pick it-up, say one was to finish it off with a good punt from a size 11 Dr Marten's, launching said gray vermin several meters to slap off a tree with multiple fatal injuries.................would that be 'unnecessary suffering'?? hypotheticaly asking that is.
 
#16
Hypothetical question - say if one was to whack a gray vermin with a slug-pistol, that only stunned it, and to find it coming too on reaching to pick it-up, say one was to finish it off with a good punt from a size 11 Dr Marten's, launching said gray vermin several meters to slap off a tree with multiple fatal injuries.................would that be 'unnecessary suffering'?? hypotheticaly asking that is.
Stamp it into the deck, dont pick it up until dead, they can give you a nasty bite!
 
#17
Further to the elimination of squirrels, one of the shoots I was a member of had a clause in our contract with the landowner that held us liable for the control of vermin, if this was not carried out, we could lose our rights to shoot!
This normally involved us having several meets in February & March where we would assemble with shotguns & the odd .22 rifle with the keeper who was equiped with a lightweight assemblage of poles which he used to poke out the dreys, with us blasting any fleeing squirrels! It was good fun and extended the shooting season by up to 8 weeks!
Another shoot had the same clause but invoved mainly rabbits, there were literally thousands of them and as most of the guns lived some distance from this shoot it was difficult to visit at dawn or dusk to succesfully shoot the buggers, so unfortunately we had to resort to gassing them in their burrows!
 
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#18
If, hypothetically, i had a squirrel - trapped, drowned and then prepared - in my freezer.... any recipe suggestions?
 
#19
Treat like rabbit, I like it curried but can be used in anything really, it is very lean so you might need to add bacon or such to prevent it drying out.
 
#20
Solution:

1. Join BASC (with their considerable legal backup).

2. Use lead - an air pistol or silenced .410 would be perfect for trap dispatch.

3. Tell the RSPCA idiots to 'come on if they're hard enough'.

I do find it amazing that the RSPCA consider it worth their while to bring a court case over the despatch of 'rats with good PR'. It just goes to prove that they hate anything to do with the killing of animals and have lost all touch with reality.

And don't you find it obscene that the RSPCA gets more in donations than the NSPCC?

And breathe.....
 

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