Great Wall Steed 4x4 Pick up

ugly

LE
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Great Wall 4x4s and Pickups have been on sale here in aus for over 3 years now, they have made quite a name for great performance and
reliability as well, we are waiting for them to bring out their first automatic , for our next vehicle purchase
 

ugly

LE
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Great Wall 4x4s and Pickups have been on sale here in aus for over 3 years now, they have made quite a name for great performance and
reliability as well, we are waiting for them to bring out their first automatic , for our next vehicle purchase
That sounds positive, the reason we went Isuzu was the auto box and the towing capacity is excellent. I cant drive a manual for too long as I broke my body in too many places and a day in a manual is pretty bloody rough on me now!
 
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Not massively encouraging is it?
No, not really. I know which I'd prefer to put my family in!
The Chinese version is supposed to be a a carbon copy of the Vauxhall/Opel. Most of the difference is in the materials used from what I gather, the rest is down to very poor build quality.
 

ugly

LE
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No, not really. I know which I'd prefer to put my family in!
The Chinese version is supposed to be a a carbon copy of the Vauxhall/Opel. Most of the difference is in the materials used from what I gather, the rest is down to very poor build quality.
So its the Indian Ammunition saga all over again, submit a test batch for approvalk then cut build quality to usual shit domestic standards?
I wonder if this has been noticed in Oz?
 
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Yet another fold-up vehicle from Gleat Wall Chow Mein & Motor Concern.

These vehicles, and others of the same ilk are cheap for two reasons:

Low labour costs, not least because the people who design and make them don't know what they're doing
and
They're utter shite

I wouldn't put anyone I cared about into a Chinese car. They might look like western cars, but you can't go in five years from making glorified TukTuks to proper cars. Hell, the French have been at it for over a century, and they still haven't got it right.
 
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So its the Indian Ammunition saga all over again, submit a test batch for approvalk then cut build quality to usual shit domestic standards?
I wonder if this has been noticed in Oz?
A friend of mine wanted to import a large quantity of Chinese made miners lamps.
He queried the ATEX certification, the response from the Chinese manufacturer was "You no worry, our lamps have not caused an explosion yet"
Another new design lamp was stamped with a certification of a type that expired several years before the company started.
Considering how many miners die in China every year I wouldn't be to confident myself.
The Chinese have no worries about certifying their products as whatever they like without even thinking about actually testing it.
 
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Friend of mine runs an Isuzu dealership, I asked his opinion, after he stopped laughing he said that Isuzu have a new twin cab coming out this summer.
Completely new design and promises to drive more like a car than the current offerings on cart springs.
Oh and you might survive a crash in it and its residuals, reliability, quality (i think you get the picture) will be light years ahead.
 
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I was brought up in the Far East where pretty much everything on sale was a Chinese copy. It all looked great, but it never lasted/always caught fire/it fell apart and so on.

Spend 15 minutes on YuTube..sorry, Youtube and look ap Chinese Cars. Its amazing how they have ripped off BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Izuzu and so on, even having logos that at first glance look like the real thing. The crash tests are frighening!!

Lastly, as a side line I build and design fly fishing rods. A fellow builder went to China to get his range of rods produced. The first batch were brilliant! Retail was around the £500 mark and he had a waiting list. The next batch that turned up were different in colour and fittings. The third batch went back to the original colour and fittings, but were 6 inches shorter..and so it went on. He is now reduced to selling them on ebay at a reduced cost as "seconds"! The same happened to the reels he had made. Spools from one batch dis not fit spools from another.
 

ugly

LE
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I was brought up in the Far East where pretty much everything on sale was a Chinese copy. It all looked great, but it never lasted/always caught fire/it fell apart and so on.

Spend 15 minutes on YuTube..sorry, Youtube and look ap Chinese Cars. Its amazing how they have ripped off BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Izuzu and so on, even having logos that at first glance look like the real thing. The crash tests are frighening!!

Lastly, as a side line I build and design fly fishing rods. A fellow builder went to China to get his range of rods produced. The first batch were brilliant! Retail was around the £500 mark and he had a waiting list. The next batch that turned up were different in colour and fittings. The third batch went back to the original colour and fittings, but were 6 inches shorter..and so it went on. He is now reduced to selling them on ebay at a reduced cost as "seconds"! The same happened to the reels he had made. Spools from one batch dis not fit spools from another.
Made in China the new Health and Safety Warning!
 
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Before you think about buying a Chinese built car watch this-

Jiangling Landwind Chinese Car Crash Safety Test - YouTube

Then watch this-

Euro NCAP | Opel/Vauxhall Frontera | 2002 | Crash test - YouTube

Now decide whether you want to buy one built from properly specified materials and built to respectable build standards or one built in China from shit.
The difference is that in one you will live if you crash it, in the other you won't
Both vehicles are built to the same design.
Not only that, but the Frontera was pretty poor anyway - it's an even worse comparison if you put it against a new car of the same type, e.g. Crash Test EuroNCAP Ford Kuga (2008) www.sicurauto.it - YouTube
 
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Yet another fold-up vehicle from Gleat Wall Chow Mein & Motor Concern.

These vehicles, and others of the same ilk are cheap for two reasons:

Low labour costs, not least because the people who design and make them don't know what they're doing
and
They're utter shite

I wouldn't put anyone I cared about into a Chinese car. They might look like western cars, but you can't go in five years from making glorified TukTuks to proper cars. Hell, the French have been at it for over a century, and they still haven't got it right.
You are so, so right . . .

Rolls Royce plays down Ghost recall | News.com.au
 
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Not only that, but the Frontera was pretty poor anyway - it's an even worse comparison if you put it against a new car of the same type, e.g. Crash Test EuroNCAP Ford Kuga (2008) www.sicurauto.it - YouTube
Yeh the Frontera was never brilliant.
The reason I chose it for this thread is that the Chinese build a carbon copy from the same design and comparison footage is available bettween a european and chinese manufactured variant.
 
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It really is a case of getting what you pay for. If the Chinese built version was worth as much, they would charge as much, they are not a charitable organisation.

If looking for a quality vehicle (or anything else) at a sensible price, the Koreans have got it cracked.
 

Alsacien

MIA
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I bought a SWB Landcruiser for hunting a few weeks back.
Nice vehicle, great condition, 1 pampering owner, blue.

Should have noticed the problem when I took a couple of pics of it with my mobile..........in a certain light (well any bright light apparently), the colour looks mauve/purple'ish.
Fine if I was going camping with Jarrod, not sure how the yokel hunters are going to take it.....
 
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A, Does it really matter what colour it was when you bought it. Once you have gone red-neck on it and sprayed it rattle-can camo, no-one need know its a poof's car underneath.
 
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So its the Indian Ammunition saga all over again, submit a test batch for approvalk then cut build quality to usual shit domestic standards?
I wonder if this has been noticed in Oz?
up to now have no knowledge of crash results with great wall, but the Frontera is a different kettle of fish off road it cant pull the skin off a rice pudding , it is more of a juppies spotless wheelarch type of car, 2nd hand they are not worth a bean, and in a crash situation are a death trap! our house backs onto a dangerous section of the warrego highway 4 weeks ago a frontera rearended anew Hyundai i130, result hyundai dent back door and smashed back bumper, Frontera complete right off, both passengers had to be cut out of the vehicle ,for a workhorse great wall seem to do the job, fleets of them out in the gasfields, dont hear a bad comment about them so its good enough for me, I remember some british car expert saying the Skoda and Hyundai would never hack it in europe
 

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