Great-grandfathers Medals

#1
Good Morning everyone. This is my first ever post on arrse, so I hope I am putting this question in the correct forum.
Anyway, the other day I was round my Grandfathers house when he suddenly announced that he had been doing some spring cleaning and had come across his father’s medals. His father had never talked about his experiences during the war so he asked me if there was anyway I could help him identify what specifically each medal was for. I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this.
For reasons known only to him, my Great-grandfather never wore these medals; as a result the ribbons were never attached. I was wondering if anyone knew which ribbon should be attached with which medal? I have attempted to put front and back pictures of all the medals and ribbons below.
Any and all thoughts would be very much appreciated.













 
#5
Try checking the medal cards online. Your grand'f'er's regimental number, regt. and rank will be engraved on the rim of his WW1 medals.
 
#6
Looks like he served in the Army or Navy during the later part of WW1 (after 1915) and then service in one of the Home Services during WW2 (Home guard, Police, ARP, etc)
 
#7
1914-1918 medal, the defence medal and the victory medal is what they are!

these medals were awarded to everyone in uniform at the time
 
#8
That is very interesting, being that they arn't mounted

Why not frame them as they are, and hang them on the wall, but with the ribbons and medal seperate.? It'd be a shame to cut them now IMHO.

P
 
#10
I think and i'm not 100% that you can only wear your parents medals. Unless he was a VC winner then no one would argue!
 
#11
Praetorian said:
That is very interesting, being that they arn't mounted

Why not frame them as they are, and hang them on the wall, but with the ribbons and medal seperate.? It'd be a shame to cut them now IMHO.

P
You can find the ribbons for these quite commonly so if you going to mount then get them done properly! Contact Spink and sons in london they will be able to advise on ribbons and have a look in the back of soldier magor your corp magazine for mounting firms. I got mine done at some place near Plymouth and they very good
 
#12
O2, in respect of wearing relatives’ medals for Remembrance Sunday, (or other special occasions of commemoration), the RBL usually advise along the lines of the following;

”There are many people within the community who lost relatives in the various conflicts. They have no way to mark or commemorate their loss other than on Remembrance Day. They are welcome to come along and share together with us that solemn act. If you want to wear the medals of your deceased loved ones, you can do so by placing them on the right breast. You can do this with pride and as a mark of respect to honour those who have gone before. Those wearing decorations on the left breast are the actual recipients, it is also traditional for them to wear the head-dress, tie and blazer badge of their old regiment, if they so wish.”

I would say generally one does not wear someone else’s uniform, or part of it, though I’m sure everyone’s seen this at some time, and perhaps if there are medals worn on the right it’s clear indication of the gesture - I don't know? I would take the RBL general line as a guide and always check with the event or Branch organiser – especially if you’re attended a Regimental occasion where the Regiment may have their own criteria?

No.9
 
#13
Medal Wonderer. I suggest that you get them mounted by Messdress Ltd. (Google messdress + uk, they are in Bournemouth). I came by medals in similar circumstances – my wife’s great uncle’s medals sent to his widow in Canada in 1952 then passed down/across different lines of the family until mother in law decided that as Ned’s serving, he can have them. It won’t break the bank (less than £30) to have them “court mounted” and Messdress will use new ribbon and return your original.
 
#14
No.9 said:
O2, in respect of wearing relatives’ medals for Remembrance Sunday, (or other special occasions of commemoration), the RBL usually advise along the lines of the following;

I would say generally one does not wear someone else’s uniform, or part of it, though I’m sure everyone’s seen this at some time, and perhaps if there are medals worn on the right it’s clear indication of the gesture - I don't know? I would take the RBL general line as a guide and always check with the event or Branch organiser – especially if you’re attended a Regimental occasion where the Regiment may have their own criteria?

No.9
Many, many thanks No.9.
 
#15
meiktilaman said:
1914-1918 medal, the defence medal and the victory medal is what they are!

these medals were awarded to everyone in uniform at the time
1914-1918 only awarded if in "combat zone" [e.g. France]. My GGF served throughout WW1 in UK [he was quite old then, having been recalled to the colours in Aug 14], and as a result got no medals.
The WW2 Defence and Victory medals were awarded to all, as GE bombing brought the war [and thus combat zone] to UK.
 
#16
blue_sophist said:
My GGF served throughout WW1 in UK
Same happened to one of mine, although I'm not sure he chose to stay behind (he was a territorial) or he was needed as an instructor (Sgt with cross rifles on uniform - I presume that means marksmen)
 
#17
Been away for a couple of days. Thank you for all the responses. Currently they are kept in a box that my Great-grandfather made himself. Very beautiful but not in the best condition. I will deffinately look into getting them mounted so that my Grandad can put them up somewhere. To clear it up, my GGF searved in both wars as a Padre. However im not sure where since he apparently never talked about it. Next time i am home i shall look on the rim to see if there are any engravings.
Thanks again to everyone, my Grandfather was thrilled when i showed him what i had dug up on the first website shown.
 
#18
blue_sophist said:
meiktilaman said:
1914-1918 medal, the defence medal and the victory medal is what they are!

these medals were awarded to everyone in uniform at the time
1914-1918 only awarded if in "combat zone" [e.g. France]. My GGF served throughout WW1 in UK [he was quite old then, having been recalled to the colours in Aug 14], and as a result got no medals.
The WW2 Defence and Victory medals were awarded to all, as GE bombing brought the war [and thus combat zone] to UK.
I stand corrected however in my defence i was on the phone at the time lol
 
#19
My grandfathers medals are now with an uncontactable relative in texas
somewhere. He was field commisioned from private to captain obviously
in stages. He must have been a lucky bugger or good at ducking and diving. but I would like to have a copy of them but I do not have his army no. can anyone help. As i understand gf medals can be worn on the right tit
 
#20
meiktilaman said:
blue_sophist said:
meiktilaman said:
1914-1918 medal, the defence medal and the victory medal is what they are!

these medals were awarded to everyone in uniform at the time
1914-1918 only awarded if in "combat zone" [e.g. France]. My GGF served throughout WW1 in UK [he was quite old then, having been recalled to the colours in Aug 14], and as a result got no medals.
The WW2 Defence and Victory medals were awarded to all, as GE bombing brought the war [and thus combat zone] to UK.
I stand corrected however in my defence i was on the phone at the time lol
Who needs another ruck? ;-)
I'm just tuned in to this topic, as when my father died I "acquired" his, GF's and GGF's medals in a loose collection in a box.

Happily, there were also assorted sepia photos ... my subsequent letters to Army, Navy and RAF records offices gave me their service histories [at least in part, medals are now all all boxed and mounted [nothing more than "I was there", but they all did their bit, so ... respect].

They shall not be forgotten, and that is so f****ing important. :salut:
 

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