Government first, for a long time is it not?

#2
From the link

It will apply in 133 countries worldwide
So what does that mean exactly?

Anyone not in one of these 133 countries can have a UK visa without these checks? That means that we are relying on the security systems of these places, hoping that they are at least as good as our own (wouldn't be hard).

I assume the EU countries or at least the Schengen ones are exempt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

If so then the whole idea is pretty pointless as your identity fraudsters, illegal immigrants and criminals just need to get into Bulgaria or Romania which are not exactly well known for their security.


Spin spin and yet more spin again.
 
#4
Priceless. Ministers will be lining up to take the credit. Contrast to when things go tits up. Any Ministers fallen on their sword recently?

None of following required for this story
"Junior official to blame"
"Years of Tory under-investment"
"Institutional beaurocracy which we are now correcting"
"International financial insecurity"
"It was Tony's idea not mine"
"We needed to harmonise with EU Law"
"Rising/falling oil prices"
"Global warming to blame"
"International terrorism"
 
#5
Looks like they might have done something sensible for change.

That is take existing, working, technology that is widely available (US Immigration use this sort of thing all the time), and just applied it in a slightly different way.

Lets have a think at what other projects would have benefitted from this approach.................................................... :x
 
#6
Aah the eternal optimist.

Let's wait a few weeks efore talking about what an effective system it will be.

All the networks in place and working 24/7?
Staff throughout world trained and ready?
Eligibility rules clear?
Exemptions clear?
Databases replicated and functioning?
Legal groundwork done to fight challenges?
Contingency plans for system outages?
Method of retrospectively catching up on all those already in?
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
Not bad, not bad. Only 2 million illegal immigrants NOT on the system to sort out now.
 

Alsacien

LE
Moderator
#9
Steven said:
From the link

It will apply in 133 countries worldwide
So what does that mean exactly?

Anyone not in one of these 133 countries can have a UK visa without these checks? That means that we are relying on the security systems of these places, hoping that they are at least as good as our own (wouldn't be hard).

I assume the EU countries or at least the Schengen ones are exempt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

If so then the whole idea is pretty pointless as your identity fraudsters, illegal immigrants and criminals just need to get into Bulgaria or Romania which are not exactly well known for their security.


Spin spin and yet more spin again.
UK is not part of the Schengen agreement....
IMO - the countries that adopted it did so for financial reasons, eg they could not economically police their land borders, not the case for the UK.
 

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