Goodbye Arborfield... hello St Athan

#2
Further to the above

http://www.qinetiq.com/home_stathan/faqs.html

quote from the site;

What type of training will take place at the Defence Training Academy?


The Academy will provide technical training to all the armed services - the Army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force. The areas of specialist training include three engineering disciplines (aeronautical, electro-mechanical and communications / IT), logistics training, languages, intelligence and photography. Servicemen and women will come to the Academy once they have successfully completed their basic training. The Academy will also provide career development courses and 'refresher' courses for all three services.
 
#4
Ok so it looks as if its almost certain..........But what about Recovery training, is that going to stay at Bordon???? As Far as I was aware it was never decided if any other sites where good enough for it !!!!
 
#5
Not wishing to wee on anyones bonfire but 'Midlands Today' last night and this morning were also talking up the hopes of it coming to RAF Cosford. I guess it will all boil down to who's MP lobbies hardest.
 
#6
The slab is as good as you are gonna get anywhere for Recy Meching. Foden on Barry Island beach aint an option. So the Dvr Trg (A Fleet) and Recy will stay at Bordon.
(That is of course just my tuppence worth)
 
#7
personally i hope it comes to cosford but no doubt the poly-ticians will give in to welsh pressure about being a poor relation and not look at whats good for the whole forces network.
central england seems a good place for it and cosford is already a superb training establishment with great road access but hey!! lets give it to the welsh ! id rather give them independance and none of my taxes
 
#8
I've heard that they could not sell off Arborfield anyway since, when they looked at the legal paperwork, it actually belonged to someone else and REME had been paying a peppercorn rent since first occupation ! So the Corps ain't going anywhere.
 
#9
the Defence Catering School (or whatever they're called ) are scheduled to be leaving St Omer Bks sometime soon, and their QM has already got the keys to a part of the Arborfield camp.
 
#11
centurion-mech said:
personally i hope it comes to cosford but no doubt the poly-ticians will give in to welsh pressure about being a poor relation and not look at whats good for the whole forces network.
central england seems a good place for it and cosford is already a superb training establishment with great road access but hey!! lets give it to the welsh ! id rather give them independance and none of my taxes
Perhaps after having been in England for so long it's time Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland had a turn. And as for recovery training , surely it's not a million miles from St Asaph to the Brecon Beacons which should provide enough recovery obstacles to keep them busy.
 
#14
I will be glad to be rid of Arborfield as a corps "home". For singlies, the block there is abismal. The Sgts Mess has wallpaper that in part was put up by holding platoon in the mid 90's with flour & water!!!

I believe training will be much improved in the new camp - of course, after initial teething problems. I welcome the move.
 
#16
Themanwho said:
the Defence Catering School (or whatever they're called ) are scheduled to be leaving St Omer Bks sometime soon, and their QM has already got the keys to a part of the Arborfield camp.
Ref the above, would that be the old apprentice college?



I did wonder why the TV crew were outside the gate tonight, thought it may have been another Tech type person had broken a fingernail or someone had been caught riding a pushbike on the walkways. :headbang:

A new dawn...a new hope....?
 
#17
So, in this wonderful new world of privatised trade training, where are they going to get the instructors who actually know about the kit, or has the standard of instruction at Bordon gone to the dogs in the last ten years?

Where is the private company going to recruit the people who actually know how to 'fix' it, not just 'how it works', but how to keep it running? All the little tricks of the trade you learn on the job, and, OK maybe 'shouldn't' do but 'need' to do to expdite the task?

In my experience, there was always a wealth of knowledge at Bordon which, if it hasn't changed, would be yet another sad loss not just the to Corps, but to the operational efficiency of the Army as a whole.

Not to appear biased, I expect the same situation exists at Arborfield, Wallop etc.
 
#18
Adjustable said:
So, in this wonderful new world of privatised trade training, where are they going to get the instructors who actually know about the kit, or has the standard of instruction at Bordon gone to the dogs in the last ten years?

Where is the private company going to recruit the people who actually know how to 'fix' it, not just 'how it works', but how to keep it running? All the little tricks of the trade you learn on the job, and, OK maybe 'shouldn't' do but 'need' to do to expdite the task?

In my experience, there was always a wealth of knowledge at Bordon which, if it hasn't changed, would be yet another sad loss not just the to Corps, but to the operational efficiency of the Army as a whole.

Not to appear biased, I expect the same situation exists at Arborfield, Wallop etc.
So Bordon isn't privatised? 100% military instructors? I'm sure that when I went through the factory I had some crusty old ex ASM's take me through the the finer points. At Arborfield there is a rough ratio of 50/50 VT and military staff and that works fine. Where do we think the VT staff came from - Marks and Spencers?

Anyway its not all about the relocation - have we considered the implications of consolidating training with the RAF and Navy. Yes, its as big a can as it sounds. Light fuse and stand back.....
 
#19
Alf, you took what I said the wrong way. It was indeed the old, experienced crusties that I think will be lost by a relocation. And no, Bordon isn't privatised, it's run by the MoD and the crusties are CS's.
 
#20
Alf, AJ, just which old and bold are you thinking of?

The ex serving now VT instructors that teach to pass an exam?

Or is it the still serving Artisans and Tiffies who also teach to pass outcomes/exams?

This move would give the chance to get rid of the VT deadwood that has been hanging round SEME/SEAE's neck like a noose.
 

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