Goodbye 40 Regiment Royal Artillery....

#2
If fairness as they are in NI then the chances are retention would have fallen through the floor and soon there would have been no-one there anyway!

Apart from lads native to Northern Ireland, who the fcuk would want to be stationed there for their entire army career? The place is a turdhole with crap weather, annoying accents on the locals (most of whom know more about inbreeding than Thetford people), and a surging risk of terrorist attacks which is being studiously ignored by the political elite in London. Apart from a couple of rifle ranges, is there a single area in Northern Ireland that can be used for training (apart from going out on infantry patrols through the villages with live ammo and full armour)? I wasn't aware of anything suitable for playing with Guns.

Edited to ask: why can I not use the word E L I T E without it turning into some turdburgling hyperlink to some shitty shop?
 
#3
After recently talking to a few of the seniors from 40 the other week, the news that they're been binned will be like all their Christmases coming at once. To a man, the lads hate Ireland and the restrictions been posted there involve. All they could talk about was putting their postings in to a UK based unit and being able to have a life again.
 
#5
Looks like there's hard time ahead for The Royal Regt, if my source is correct. Two CS Regts going, two AD Regts to merge and we'll need plenty of GX279 for the AS90s. Watch out for a bunfight between 26 & 3rd for the right not to join 40s exit stage left.

Expect Inf & CAV to take a shoe'ing too. And delete AT, insert J(ungle)T.
 
#6
Looks like there's hard time ahead for The Royal Regt, if my source is correct. Two CS Regts going, two AD Regts to merge and we'll need plenty of GX279 for the AS90s. Watch out for a bunfight between 26 & 3rd for the right not to join 40s exit stage left.

Expect Inf & CAV to take a shoe'ing too. And delete AT, insert J(ungle)T.
If that's the case, then it will be 26. Every time an RHA regiment is 'threatened', an RA regiment suffers! This was one of the reasons that 3 RHA and 19 RA Arms Plotted between Topcliffe and Colchester!
 
#7
If that's the case, then it will be 26. Every time an RHA regiment is 'threatened', an RA regiment suffers! This was one of the reasons that 3 RHA and 19 RA Arms Plotted between Topcliffe and Colchester!
Well observed. From your Imjin avatar I'm assuming you're Ex 170; so you'll be familiar with 1990's 45/3 RHA Colchester - Paderborn Arms plot. And the post-options fate of 45 thereafter.
 
#8
If that's the case, then it will be 26. Every time an RHA regiment is 'threatened', an RA regiment suffers! This was one of the reasons that 3 RHA and 19 RA Arms Plotted between Topcliffe and Colchester!
Well observed. From your Imjin avatar I'm assuming you're Ex 170; so you'll be familiar with 1990's 45/3 RHA Colchester - Paderborn Arms plot. And the post-options fate of 45 thereafter.
Not quite, I'm ex 25 Bty. 170 were amalgamated with us. 25 Bty always had the Bengal Tiger and this was the closest I could find at the time. Some good lads in what was 170 Bty and there was a bit of rivalry at the start, but we soon got on with being 25/170 Bty.

When it became clear that whoever was stationed in Colchester, had to lose a gun bty and be in the airmobile role, two things happened. The first, was that it was made clear that in no way would 3 RHA lose a bty and second, that our CO as his parting gesture, pushed for us to remain in the airmobile role, as we had been in it since it's inception with 6 AMB! We inherited a TA bty (269?) based in Leeds to make up for the missing gun bty, quite how that was to work once we moved to Colchester was never really thought out!
 
#9
I used to be in 40 Field RA / 38 Bty RA. How I ended up in the Lowland Gunners was a mystery to me being a Southerner (Oi shut it !!!) but i'll still be sad to see the Regiment go if thats going to happen?

Is there any facts behind this thread because the results of the SDSR aren't known yet or just a guess ?
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#10
Looks like there's hard time ahead for The Royal Regt, if my source is correct. Two CS Regts going, two AD Regts to merge 12 & 47? They already share Thorney Island. and we'll need plenty of GX279 for the AS90s. Watch out for a bunfight between 26 & 3rd for the right not to join 40s exit stage left.

Expect Inf & CAV to take a shoe'ing too. And delete AT, insert J(ungle)T.
have to add something for the minimum chars bllx.

More likely to be the Rapier regiments (16 & ? (sorry forgotten)) the other 12 and 47 have taken on UAV as well as HVM, and UAV is likely to be needed for quite some time to come.
 
#11
More likely to be the Rapier regiments (16 & ? (sorry forgotten))
There is only one rapier regiment. 16.

22 went a few years ago.

12 and 47 operate the same equipment, and are both on Thorney island. seems perfect for a merger.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#12
There is only one rapier regiment. 16.

22 went a few years ago.

12 and 47 operate the same equipment, and are both on Thorney island. seems perfect for a merger.
One Regt on continuous Ops? that'll go down well with the families (even if it's done as a Bty rotation).
 
#13
When it became clear that whoever was stationed in Colchester, had to lose a gun bty and be in the airmobile role, two things happened. The first, was that it was made clear that in no way would 3 RHA lose a bty and second, that our CO as his parting gesture, pushed for us to remain in the airmobile role, as we had been in it since it's inception with 6 AMB! We inherited a TA bty (269?) based in Leeds to make up for the missing gun bty, quite how that was to work once we moved to Colchester was never really thought out!
Back in the good old days (of the cold war) when 45 were in Colly, 269 Bty were our (war strength) forth Bty. Not much in it from Leeds, or Colly to Sennybridge, but (they're) much closer to Otterburn. A role will remain in Colchester, I have no doubt. But who's best placed to fulfill it? I expect there're some very worried people at 3rd.
 
#14
12 and 47 operate the same equipment, and are both on Thorney island. seems perfect for a merger.
That's the two names I heard mentioned.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#15
That's the two names I heard mentioned.
In that case, ditch 16 (give the rapier to the crabs), and if anything expand/enhance 12 and 47. Keep them separate, and then operational commitments might just be met. Merging them, and keeping 16, makes no sense.
 
#16
In that case, ditch 16 (give the rapier to the crabs), and if anything expand/enhance 12 and 47. Keep them separate, and then operational commitments might just be met. Merging them, and keeping 16, makes no sense.
Do the Rocks still have any Rapier AD bods? I thought they'd lost that asset already.
 

BuggerAll

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#17
I was living in Theipval until a month ago, I was also in the metal factory with them in '97. If this is correct its a very sad day. Also as the OP mentioned it does seem to be a huge waste of money building a new purpose designed barracks for them and then binning them. That said it was always a slightly odd place to put an Arty Regt: In NI with no ranges and no guns.
 
#18
#19
Let's face it, when 40 lost their AS90s and moved to NI to "wait out" for the new LIMAWS medium gun, we all really new their days were numbered didn't we? The LIMAWS project quietly shuffled off, there is still no decision on a medium weapon and therefore rationalisation across the RA may be needed. the suggestion that a bit of merging of 2 re-roled AD regts (now operating as MUAV) and the re-distribution of PIDs from one regiment to another to retain manpower, is, unfortunately, more important than retaining a Regiment for history's sake (sad, but true).

The fact that the need arose for more Lt Gun Btys to man Afghan was a godsend for 40 at the time and who knows, a cost analysis might be done that says keeping them, a proper Lt Gun regt is better than keeping an AS90 Regiment with no clear idea of AS90's future...

SLA accom - in hand - every Regt's getting it.

Loitering munitions - allegedly the way forward - cold war legacy or not. If you make it smarter, almost an armed UAV, then it has to be better than "dumb" munitions. However, no matter what the counter argument, everything at the moment appears to be being aligned with HERRICK needs, not wider picture.
 

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