Good walking routes around Snowdon

Am going walking in Swondonia in a months time. I'm after some good challenging routes around Trevan or Crib Goch which can be done with a bergan on. Any help/advice ver welcome.
All depends on how far you want to go and where you want to start and finish.

I did a 3 day hike from Bethesda to Llanberis (I was about 14 so may be a 2 days hike now). Basically down the valley to the bottom of the Glyders. Up over the Glyders and down to the base of Snowdon. Then up to pen-y-pas youth hostel and up the Miners track (you could do the pyg track up via Crib Goch) and then down into Beddgelert and along the valley toi Llanberis.

I know the area pretty well (having been there since the age of 3 hiking with my Dad) so feel free to fire some start/end places and distances/interests and i'll see if i can suggest some places.

If you want to avoid the toursists, there are some routes up the Carnedds and Glyders that are much less walked. And if you want a scramble then the north face of Tryfan is good or up Twll Ddu.

Want to do something off the main tracks where possible. The miners track is a bit too motorway for me. Is it fesible to be able to do tryfan and crib goch in the same day. Am a bit limitted on time as I finish about 4ish on the Friday at Chatham (Maidstone way) and need to get up there, walk and get back down for a reasonable time on Sunday night.
Problem you'll have is gettingback to your start point...unless you have 2 cars.

If you have 2 cars then park one at Pen-y-pass (early..and the bugger who charges you will probably be there) or the bottom of one of the other tracks off Snowdon.

The drive round the Tryfan, you can park at the bottom alongside the road (don't go as far as the youth hostel it's too far). I'd then suggest hitting the north side of Tryfan straight up (it's shorter than Heather terrace, the east side, but a bit of a scramble), get to the top of Tryfan. Do Adam and Eve (without the Burgen) and then head off to the saddle in the Glyders. Drop down the far side and head up the road to Pen-y-pas. Good pub at the bottom of the pass for lunch (it was a year of so back anyway), then up the road to the start of the Pyg track.

Up the Pyg track, divert up Crib Goch and then back down to whereever the car is parked.

It'll be a long route, but I have done both individually in half a day (snowdon up and down is do-able in 4 hours, tryfan from the bottom to the other side of the Glyders is about 3, then an hour in the middle).

Other option is one Saturday (Snowdon for preference), then Tryfan on the Sunday as it is shorter but probably a harder climb.

Obviously I assume you're pretty experienced in these things, but don't try Crib Goch if it is wet or windy. Adam and Eve is good for the soul but again not if wet or windy.


Am reasonabley experianced in hill walking etc but living in Bulford you're kinda stuck as to where to go. Thanks a lot, that sounds like a good route. I think my mate is on ablout basha'ing up by the devil's kitchen. I think so long as we leave by about two or three ish on the Sunday we should be squared. Can you think of any routes that could include the said basha point?
Devils Kitchen (Twll Ddu) is next to a little lake called Llyn Idwal. Very good rock climbing next to the lake on the Idwal Slabs.

Basha points are difficult...anywhere above 1000ft in NT property is fine, and I'm not sure on the level of Idwal.

It's not far from Tryfan, so unless there is a specific need to be near Twll Ddu then I'd suggest heading closer to Tryfan. Basically park at the same place (either along the road or at the Youth Hostel) and head up the main path, divert off to the east (rather than west to Idwal) and find somewhere at the base of Tryfan. You can probably stop near another lake (llyn Bochlwyd I think) which is on the main route, and is at the south west corner of Tryfan.

Basically would take a chunk out of your climb up Tryfan, but you wouldn't be able to take the North face up.

If you want to stay by the Kitchen then you could head up it (it's a tough scramble especially with a full pack on) and then head over the Glyders, if you were doing one day on Tryfan, then you could carry onto Tryfan and down to the car then onto Snowdon the next day. Otherwise miss out Tryfan and head down to Snowdon the way I described from Tryfan...but obviously without doing Tryfan.

I'm not far from you (working at Boscombe) so if you want a pointer on a map give me a shout PM.

Leave the chainsaw at home, try these links to wet your appettite!!

weather forecast 3 day

and if the shit hits the fan

Theres also a site that gives details of crashed planes in the area that will take you off the beaten track and sharpen your Nav!!

If you only have one car the sherpa buses are an alternative to walking on roads but check times etc from tourist info at Betws Y Coed

Enjoy and dont forget your Goretex/Barrack dress!!!!
There's always the 14 Peaks - all 14 peaks in Snowdonia above 3000 ft, in 24 hours.

One route is to start at Pen-Y-Pass, then Crib Goch, Crib y Ddysgl, Snowdon, down through Derlwyn and across the A4086, up Elidir Fawr, then Y Garn, through the Devil's Kitchen, the Glyders and Tryfan, around Llyn Ogwen and across the A5, up Pen Yr Ole Wen, along the ridge to Cardnedd Dafydd and Carnedd Llewellyn; from there, you head out along the spur to Yr Elen, then back to Carnedd Llewellyn, and then carry along the ridge to Foel Grach, Garnedd Uchaf, Foel Fras (that's the 14 done) and down over the Drum towards Abergwyngregyn, where you meet up with a road and can arrange a pick up (there's a taxi available that does pick ups all night).

It can be done in 24 hours; alternatively, take three or four days over it, if you have the time.

Now that sounds like a challenge. Is there any possibility of giving me some grid refernences so I can plan a route card and show my mate. I'm not going to take the chain saw with me!!
Don't forget the CROW Act comes into force on the 28th of May in Wales, this is the right to roam Act, and it affects Snowdonia quite a lot, you won't have to stick to tracks in future.

Where you can roam will be marked on new 1:25 000 scale maps of the area.
Cheers for that. I was under the impression that you you mince arounce pretty much anywhere in Snowdonia when it came to the mountains with it being a national park.
Plant Life

You can seperate Snowdonia into 3 groups of peaks - the Carnedds, Glyders and Snowdon massif (not to be confused with the Slough Massive). All have their attractions. For a short 2 day exped incorporating bivvying in the Devil's Kitchen, Tryfan on its own won't give you a full day, even when combined with Glyder Fawr and Fach. However if you start out from Bethesda near the water works, you can walk up the valley to Ysgolian Dduon to a seemingly impenetrable wall. However there is an exposed but grade 1 scramble up the Llech Du spur to the top. An excellent route. Traverse around to the right towards Carnedd Dafydd and Llewellyn and towards Pen Yr Ole Wen. Before you get there though, cut left, descending slightly and then ascend Pen Yr Helgi Ddu. Another nice ridge walk with some slight exposure. Drop down into the Ogwen valley, and Tryfan is almost directly opposite. Ascend that, come down the back of it, and the Devil's Kitchen is to the north (your right).
Far better though is to bin the Kitchen and continue the same line you took with Tryfan. So you've gone up Tryfan and down the far side, but then go up again towards the Glyders massif. There is a rocky spine that leads up to the Glyders called Bristly Ridge. Again this is a grade 1 but fantastic. Go up it to the top and over the Glyders and then drop over the far side into Nant Peris. There are a couple of pubs there that are OK, and a campsite. That sets you up for day 2 nicely, which is a quick hop down the road to Pen y Pass and Snowdon. Crib Goch is up the pyg track until the wall starts looming in on the right, then straight up, rader aus, to the top and around the horseshoe. That should get you back at ground level again by about 2-3pm, with plenty of time for tea and medals in the pub and a drive home.
Harry_Webster said:
Think you will find all the details of 3000s at

Like the Cambrian only done once and not to be underestimated!!
Am doing this walk over the bank holiday weekend, walking Sat and Sun, go out in Betws y coed on Sunday night. can you recommend any good camp sites near the start, ideally somewhere with secure parking. Once my mate and I have finished walking we will pick up car and don't want to find it broken into or stolen. Also can you recommend a decent hostel/b and b in betws y coed? Thanks a lot for any help
Although thoroughly illegal, a (nudge nudge) friend downloaded Memory Map and a crack for the program, coupled with the maps for Snowdonia and other areas. This allows me...I mean create a route then view it in 3D, do a flypast of the route and print out a good elevation profile of the route - very useful for time estimate. All in all I think it's excellent, if a little disconcerting when you see the gradient!

If anyone wants a copy then PM me.
A good place to stay is down the Llanberis Pass to Nant Peris. There's a pub there and opposite the pub is a camp site (field with sheep and concrete smelly tiolets). The owners are really friendly and allow us to park our car there - for a small fee. That way the car is left safe. Unlike many places in N.Wales if left by the side of the road.
The path to Y Garn is literally through the camp field and straight up. If you go anti clockwise and walk up the road to Llanberis you can yomp up the road to Pen y Pass, up the Pyg via Crib Goch, down the miners then up the Glyders miners track to the Glyders, drop onto Tryfan, and down into the camp via Y Garn. This is achievable in a long day or alternatively camp above Devils Kitchen and make a night assualt on the Glyders to watch the sun come up - magical.

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