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Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by mazoldboy, Jan 30, 2008.

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  1. Ord_Sgt

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  2. Biped

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    I think that pretty much covers it. The vast majority of the population do indeed feel a great deal of warmth and affection, rather than fear towards our forces, after all, our forces are drawn from the ranks of the people, and defend those people with honour.

    As for learning to love Gordon Brown thanks to lies and spin - can't see it happening. Slimey fcuking cnut that he is.
     
  3. I read this and agreed

    However I think there is something of a working class hero status being missed by the writer. Whether this is because he is well off I don't know.

    He doesn't see the respect that men coming out of the mines got from their families who were proud that their dad was a "Hard working Bread winner." Which is strange seeing as he was a 'War time Tommy.'

    The same can be said for farmers, Grease monkeys etc etc!

    In certain pubs by me if you go in for a drink at dinner time wearing a 'high vis' you will be looked upon highly because none of the fcukers drinking at that time of day work.

    Maybe i'm reading into it too much but I think deep down Joe Public has a quiet respect for the muddy faced fellas in green they see every now and then at a service station on the M6 grabbing a quick brew. Or the sand covered commoners talking to a reporter from some Afghan compound.

    More to the point, I bet he doesn't realise how much his Mrs wants to "love" a squaddy.
     
  4. Norwich and Bury St Edmunds turned out en mass to welcome home the Angle irons only a few weeks ago.

    Joe Public loves soldiers a good deal more than Joe gets credit for.

    Broon, on the other hand, has had his fingers clenched around the forces financial windpipe for over a decade, while his erstwhile leader (and now he, himself) repeatedly marched them up to the top of the hill, and marched them down again, all the while whittling away at the resources to sustain on the field of battle - and worse - at home, when injured.
     
  5. I do not think that the public need to be mobilised to admire the Armed Forces - on any level, we have that in spades from the general public despite what anyone tells you to the contrary.

    It is not the respect of the public that is absent - it is the respect from the political establishment who will wear their poppies at the Cenotaph, make the right noises, go through the right motions and quietly knife you in the back!
     
  6. BROON = WANKERRRRRR

    Re the 1942 Cpl's, he should have got out of his scratcher and booted them in the jigglies, gave them a thumping, or more than likely got a beating. Either way, he would then likely have been respected and left alone!

    Although I do agree with him that good pay, feed and equipment would make the troops more than happy.

    Re T. Atkins, Tommy, Jock, Mick or Taff, God love him/her. They don't need Brown to make them popular as they're popular already with most people. They are part of the people and will become civies again when they finish their time.

    I'm amazed that Brown hasn't quite figured that out.... Then again, as Iolis says, the politicians pay lip service when absolutely necessary but have no respect for our servicemen and women so expect the general public to feel the same way. WRONG!!!
     
  7. Iolis wrote: -- do not think that the public need to be mobilised to admire the Armed Forces - on any level, we have that in spades from the general public despite what anyone tells you to the contrary.

    It is not the respect of the public that is absent - it is the respect from the political establishment who will wear their poppies at the Cenotaph, make the right noises, go through the right motions and quietly knife you in the back!

    Absolutely spot on mate.
     
  8. Well said, Iolis.

    Brown has worked out that Joe Public quite likes HM Forces and wants some of this prestige to rub off on him. Unfortunately, he seems to believe his own spin that Gordon 'has just popped across the border to sort Tony's mess out' and forgets that the public has a long memory. If, indeed, Gordon has had a Damascene conversion to 'respect and admiration for our Armed Forces' (which I very much doubt), he still has the problem of convincing his bunch of failed lawyers, incompetant millionaires wives and daughters masquerading as socialists and former student activists of this fact.

    Unfortunately, almost none of this bunch have ever served in uniform and regard HM Forces with, at best, indifference and, at worst, contempt.
     
  9. most of the public like and admire squaddies
    the media and politicians don't
    because its envy there too craven to sign up :twisted: