Good news on the employment front

#1
According to figures released employment in the UK is going well........

Interesting aspects of this are:-

People claiming Jobseekers - 813,000
Actual registered unemployed - 1,640,000
Economically inactive???? - 8,000,000

Unfilled vacancies - 680,000
People in employment - 29,000,000

No wonder my tax bill is so bloody expensive.......

Source - News Item
 
#2
Semmy said:
According to figures released employment in the UK is going well........

Interesting aspects of this are:-

People claiming Jobseekers - 813,000
Actual registered unemployed - 1,640,000
Economically inactive???? - 8,000,000

Unfilled vacancies - 680,000
People in employment - 29,000,000

No wonder my tax bill is so bloody expensive.......

Source - News Item
WTF are economically inactive? is that people with too much money so they sit at home all day?

that all sounds a bit fishy to me do you think someone has massaged the figures, because that reads to me like 25% of the population are unemployed, rather than the three catagories that have made things look quite promising.

were doomed if 25% unemployed
30ish% public sector
10% charities/not for profit
that sounds like 35% of the country are paying for the country.

im going to dig a shell scrape up the country, we are doomed!! :eek:
 
#3
Semmy said:
According to figures released employment in the UK is going well........

Interesting aspects of this are:-

People claiming Jobseekers - 813,000
Actual registered unemployed - 1,640,000
Economically inactive???? - 8,000,000

Unfilled vacancies - 680,000
People in employment - 29,000,000

No wonder my tax bill is so bloody expensive.......

Source - News Item
Economically inactive??????? what the feck is "Economically inactive"??????
 
#4
From here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1089

(Scroll to the very bottom of the page for it...)

Here it is reproduced:

"Economically inactive: people who are neither in employment nor unemployed. For example, those looking after the home, the retired, or those permanently unable to work."

This definition does not state whether these people also claim benefits? That's a lot of people who contribute nothing to the economy but who COULD also be a drain!
 
#5
Not only are 29mlln supporting this nation, but a decent percentage of Europe too!
 
#6
The total UK poulation's round about 60m. Linky

By my reckoning that still leaves a tad under 20m not accounted for in any of those categories. Methinks it's bollocks.
 
#7
smartascarrots said:
The total UK poulation's round about 60m. Linky

By my reckoning that still leaves a tad under 20m not accounted for in any of those categories. Methinks it's bollocks.
What about the fact anyone under 18 wont be on that list anyway

Thats probably a large chunk of the population, could explain the deficit?
 
#8
smartascarrots said:
The total UK poulation's round about 60m. Linky

By my reckoning that still leaves a tad under 20m not accounted for in any of those categories. Methinks it's bollocks.
You have considered that there are a few million under the age of 16, haven't you?


(Up the chimneys with them! There are pit-ponies needing handlers, and mechanical looms which need cleaned whilst they operate!)


Edited to add: beaten to it, by a minute!
 
#11
29 Million employed is a lot in a nation of about 60 Million.
Take away the under 16s, the university students, the disabled, the retired and those who are full-time parents/carers and how many would that leave as available for work? 29 Million (50%) seems too many with so many "unemployed". Unless of course the actual population is way above 60 Million but some people have not been included in the population figures but have been counted in the employment ones.
 

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#12
The_Goon said:
From here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1089

(Scroll to the very bottom of the page for it...)

Here it is reproduced:

"Economically inactive: people who are neither in employment nor unemployed. For example, those looking after the home, the retired, or those permanently unable to work."

This definition does not state whether these people also claim benefits? That's a lot of people who contribute nothing to the economy but who COULD also be a drain!
Yes, a large chunk of them do. A goodly number claim incapacity benefit, child benefit, childcare tax allowance etc. etc.
 
#13
T.F.R said:
Semmy said:
According to figures released employment in the UK is going well........

Interesting aspects of this are:-

People claiming Jobseekers - 813,000
Actual registered unemployed - 1,640,000
Economically inactive???? - 8,000,000

Unfilled vacancies - 680,000
People in employment - 29,000,000

No wonder my tax bill is so bloody expensive.......

Source - News Item
WTF are economically inactive? is that people with too much money so they sit at home all day?

that all sounds a bit fishy to me do you think someone has massaged the figures, because that reads to me like 25% of the population are unemployed, rather than the three catagories that have made things look quite promising.

were doomed if 25% unemployed
30ish% public sector
10% charities/not for profit
that sounds like 35% of the country are paying for the country.

im going to dig a shell scrape up the country, we are doomed!! :eek:
Not sure where you got 25% unemployed, if you base the % on the total employed it comes out at some 5.6%, but it doe mean that one worker is supporting one non worker
 
#14
The_0ne said:
smartascarrots said:
The total UK poulation's round about 60m. Linky

By my reckoning that still leaves a tad under 20m not accounted for in any of those categories. Methinks it's bollocks.
What about the fact anyone under 18 wont be on that list anyway

Thats probably a large chunk of the population, could explain the deficit?
Not 1/3 of the total 'Nuther linky. Advance the ruler to 2007, you'll see the population under 18 is about 1/5 the total. I haven't been able to find it, but I'd risk a modest wager that 16-18 yr old school leavers not in FE or employment get classed as economically inactive, too.
 
#16
As a retired person I resent the categorisation (either by G Brown or anyone on this website) that I am economically inactive. I pay tax at 22%, don't receive any benefits other than state pension and pay a ridiculously high council tax. All that makes me feel very economically active.

I say to anyone aged under 65..............Get some f**** work done, and keep me in the manner to which I would wish to become accostomed!
 
#17
Biped said:
The_Goon said:
From here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1089

(Scroll to the very bottom of the page for it...)

Here it is reproduced:

"Economically inactive: people who are neither in employment nor unemployed. For example, those looking after the home, the retired, or those permanently unable to work."

This definition does not state whether these people also claim benefits? That's a lot of people who contribute nothing to the economy but who COULD also be a drain!
Yes, a large chunk of them do. A goodly number claim incapacity benefit, child benefit, childcare tax allowance etc. etc.
My bold Biped, everyone with children gets child benefit or child allowance as it's known.
 
#18
devilish said:
Biped said:
The_Goon said:
From here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1089

(Scroll to the very bottom of the page for it...)

Here it is reproduced:

"Economically inactive: people who are neither in employment nor unemployed. For example, those looking after the home, the retired, or those permanently unable to work."

This definition does not state whether these people also claim benefits? That's a lot of people who contribute nothing to the economy but who COULD also be a drain!
Yes, a large chunk of them do. A goodly number claim incapacity benefit, child benefit, childcare tax allowance etc. etc.
My bold Biped, everyone with children gets child benefit or child allowance as it's known.
Your point being?
 
#19
EX_REME said:
devilish said:
Biped said:
The_Goon said:
From here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1089

(Scroll to the very bottom of the page for it...)

Here it is reproduced:

"Economically inactive: people who are neither in employment nor unemployed. For example, those looking after the home, the retired, or those permanently unable to work."

This definition does not state whether these people also claim benefits? That's a lot of people who contribute nothing to the economy but who COULD also be a drain!
Yes, a large chunk of them do. A goodly number claim incapacity benefit, child benefit, childcare tax allowance etc. etc.
My bold Biped, everyone with children gets child benefit or child allowance as it's known.
Your point being?
I would imagine it's that the economically active or not, parents receive this benefit. I stand ready to be corrected.
 
#20
Any suggestion of the unemployment figures being 'cooked"or 'massaged' is a slur on our honest government.

Someone will be suggesting the government will be claiming preceived enemies are able to launch weapons of mass destruction at Britain within 45 miniutes notice next.

For future reference,the unemployment figures will be announced from the new Ministry of Truth'Minitrue" being created to replace the Department of Work and Pensions.

In future any dissident posters will be dealt with by agents of the other new Ministry being created-the Ministry of Love.
 

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