Going to OTC selection in Sept. Have some questions...

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  1. Sorry for everyone who I will bore with these questions...

    At the moment I'm having trouble with my hips, had an ultrasound but awaiting results. Apparently it's just a permenant problem now but my MMA training has brought it out. Will this be a problem in my medical? It's literally only throwing big kicks that hurts them in training. I am being referred to a physiotherapist.

    Also I have collapsed arches in my feet, they don't give me any problems at all. Would they be an issue in my medical?

    What exactly is the fitness requirement? I heard its 1.5 miles in 14 mins, but then I heard it's in 10 mins 30 secs?

    Also are there any other fitness requirements other than the press ups and sit ups?

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. I'll be honest here and this is why I transfered away from the OTC to an actual group A unit.

    1. A lot of people will actual fail on the medical over really strange things like allergies to cats. This is a really good way to cut the majority of people from the selection down from 200 to about 80 (At least that is the case for my old unit) and something like that on your medical will most likely mean you wont get in. However in a group A unit they should treat you a lot better and actual consider you if you can do the work load.

    2. If they don't accept you that will be ridiculous because there are a lot of useless mongs to put it nicely that could barely even do the 14 minutes but had good medicals where as people that could run 7:30 for the 1.5 had bad medicals were not selected (It is just reponsibility and liability as the TA doesn't want to get sued over some bullshit incident and just protects itself)

    3. Yes it you will have to in your phase 1 run 1.5 miles in under 10:30 although I know for a fact it was fixed and the circuit was more or less around 1.3 miles as opposed to 1.5 and people who failed were actually passed as getting 10:30 exactlly.

    4. 44 press ups and about 50 situps although ideally you should be aiming for about 60 pressups and 90 situps in 2 minutes but you will have a whole year to train to be able to do this.
     
  3. Sorry for the dumb question but what's an A unit?

    If alergy to cats means you failt he medical I'm screwed lol I've had the results of the scan of my hip back, basically with physio it will improve but there's not much I can do about it otherwise. It sounds like an A unit would be a better option for me.

    That's ridiculous? I am aiming to get my 1.5 mile run time down to about 9:30. I am doing MMA, Weight training and British Military Fitness training to get there aswell as running and swimming occasionally.

    I can probably do the required amount of pres ups and sit ups now but obviosuly I'd rather be able to do more.

    Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply mate.
     
  4. You get type A (deployable) type B (non deployable).

    Type A is the proper TA units and the type B is the OTC to put it briefly.
    I will say this though and it is probably ill advised on my behalf but if you have allergies and weird stuff like that I wouldn't declare it but be sensible. If you have something like a serious allergy to nuts I wouldn't suggest joining because the ration packs will probably contain them but as for things like mild cat allergies don't tell them.

    You have to think of stuff that will only affect you or your mates in the theater of battle and a car allergy isn't one of them.

    Just tell them the absolute minimum that is needed and if its not in your actual medical records from a hospital or gp you can probably get away with lying about it. No one ever agrees with the docotrs and you can even be refered to your local GP or a specialist for further verification as for the illness but with all the budget cuts they wont even bother any more unless you are in a group A unit.

    So mate if you really want to be in the OTC and cannot get in I would just tell you to join a normal TA unit. You get more respect for it, pushed harder and still don't have to deploy. You just wont be trained as an officer which frankly just involved normal training and acting like a class A mong half the time as well.

    Plus you are doing a shit load more phys than anyone at my old OTC unit ever did to start with.
     
  5. Hooga. Handing out advice to cover up medical issues is not clever. Wind your neck in.

    The OTC Medical will be exactly the same as that at a TA Group A unit. Other selection standards are down to the unit. In the past, when Budgets were less tight and numbers were not an issue many OTCs over-recruited and were encouraged to do so by their Bde HQs, so they took anyone who could move and expressed an interest in the Army.

    In todays climate thats unlikely. Most have an establishment of under 150 OCdts, so have an intake of maybe 80 to allow for wastage. If they have 200 applicants....

    My advice is to declare any med issues. Take the next 4 months to work on Phiz. Read a decent newspaper, prepare to give a short talk of some description, think about how you work in and with a group - pushy loses as many points as being introvert... Good Luck !.
     
  6. Sorry I didn't mean to offend I am just pointing out my experience and other stuff that people have done.

    A lot of people haven't declared allergy to needed medicines such as penicilin or morphine which is pretty stupid.

    I personally haven't or wouldn't but I do know a lot of people that failed the medical over really stupid things.